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Russian Television to Broadcast Debate on 9/11 by International Experts
By: Webster G. Tarpley on: 15.09.2008 [11:56 ] (3747 reads)
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Russia ready to blow the lid off of the 9-11 Big Lie?
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Russian Television to Broadcast Debate on 9/11 by International Experts
General Leonid Ivashov, Thierry Meyssan, Giulietto Chiesa Join Russian Experts for
Landmark Television Debate on 9/11
By Webster G. Tarpley
Washington DC, Sept. 9, 2008 – Thierry Meyssan reports from Moscow that he and other
leading international 9/11 truth experts have completed taping a television debate which
will be telecast on the first national program of Russian state television this coming
Friday, September 12. This no-holds barred, free-wheeling debate, featuring strongly
divergent opinions about what really happened on and about September 11, 2001, will be
shown in conjunction with the documentary film Zero, produced and directed by Chiesa
and Franco Fracassi of Telemaco Productions in Rome. Russians are thus about to
receive an unprecedented evening of 9/11 truth.
The telecast will go out in the middle of prime time. Among the participants, General
Leonid Ivashov was the commander of the Russian armed forces on September 11, 2001,
and has been a leading critic of the US official version. A leading strategic thinker for his
country, Ivashov is currently a fellow of the Strategic Culture Foundation (fondsk.ru) in
Moscow. Giulietto Chiesa is a member of the European Parliament in Brussels,
representing the region around Asti in northwest Italy. Chiesa has been the leading
spokesman for 9/11 truth issues in the European Parliament, and has been the prime
mover behind the documentary film Zero, as well as the collection of essays by the same
name which has also attracted much attention in Italy since being published in the late
summer of 2007. Thierry Meyssan, the founder and leader of the Voltaire Network in
Paris, was one of the first critics of the US official story about 9/11. He is the author of
several books, including 9/11: The Big Lie, and Pentagate. He also organized the Axis
for Peace conference in Brussels in November 2005.
Among almost a dozen Russian participants in the debate that will be televised Friday
evening in Moscow, one of the most compelling speakers was a Russian cosmonaut who
observed the 9/11 events from his post on the International Space Station in earth orbit.
This cosmonaut recounts in the telecast that, as he watched the immense plume of smoke
spread from New York out over the Atlantic, he took a large number of photos and films
which were sent automatically to both Houston and Moscow. “We have been studying
these images very, very, carefully,” commented the cosmonaut pointedly, “and we have
seen some highly interesting things.”
The host for the debate stressed that this landmark telecast did not imply that the Kremlin
administration of President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin was officially espousing
any particular point of view concerning 9/11, but rather reflected a commitment to free
and open debate. Nevertheless, observers in the Russian capital sense a far-reaching
change of mood by the Russian government in the wake of the August 7-8 genocidal
attack on South Ossetia by the Georgian dictator and US satellite Saakashvili. The
Russians, according to this view, are through with doing favors for the US, especially in
regard to Washington’s official myths about 9/11 and the war on terror, and this telecast
will deliver that message in a clear and unmistakable way.
Webster G. Tarpley is the author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA. His current
book is Obama – The Postmodern Coup: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate. These
are available on amazon.com. His next book, entitled Barack H. Obama: The
Unauthorized Biography, will be available on lulu.com starting September 10.
http://www.actindependent.org/911debate.pdf
by James_Wolfe on 15.09.2008 [14:41 ]
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Russia, and Europe was willing to play the game, and go along. Russia used 9/11 to win sympathy for its horrific actions in Chechnya, accusing the Chechens being like Al-Qaeda. Putin convinced central Asians states to help the US and allowed the US to use its bases for its war against Afghanistan. Russia shared intelligence with the US, helped the US.
Putin expected his goodwill would be repaid, NO! Instead Russia was mercilessly slandered and attacked for arresting & prosecuting thieving Zionist oligarchs. Coloured revolutions in Georgia, Ukraine and Krygyzstan. Attempted coups in Uzbekistan. The CIA-MI6 organized Beslan massacre. British propaganda and espionage campaign against Russia. Russian oil firms being kicked out Iraq. Anti-Ballistic Missile system directed at Russia being station in the Czech Republic and Poland. The US funded and organized attack by Georgia on South Ossetia and Abkhazia. US preventing Russia from joining the WTO. Threatening to expel from the G8.
Russia has had enough, Russia is no longer weak and broke keen to please the US. Russia doesn’t need the US. So why continue with the 9/11 charade?
Russia Today gave wide publicity to the Zero documentary, exposing the absurdity for the official 9/11 story.
Russia is no longer playing the US’s game anymore.
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by antiyank on 15.09.2008 [15:02 ]
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“We have been studying these images very, very, carefully,” commented the cosmonaut pointedly, “and we have seen some highly interesting things.”
Like what, some uncommon action on the roofs of the WTC maybe? Blowout plumes tearing up vents from the C4-detonations perhaps?
Can't be done without a strong telescope though.
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by Invictus on 15.09.2008 [15:07 ]
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will the overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was a Zionist operation be mentioned?
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by paul pawlowski on 15.09.2008 [15:50 ]
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be mention?
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by Richard on 15.09.2008 [16:12 ]
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Putin could see on 9/11 that the lunatics had seized the asylum.
Let's hope this is followed by a coordinated greenback flushing...
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by stоpwar on 15.09.2008 [19:47 ]
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that someone close to the 9/11 lies has grown a conscience... and been granted asylum in Russia... and that Russia now knows exactly what happened?
Could this explain Russia's recent emboldedness? And the sudden change in France... could Sarkozy have been told something about 9/11 that was previously "only a smoking gun"?
Is this why the financial markets have suddenly gone crazy - to create a diversion... or because they know the game is up.
Haven't a clue... but there's nothing like a bit of speculation!
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by qvh on 15.09.2008 [23:54 ]
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9/11 was a Judeo-Zionist Mossad job and the towers were NUKED.
That's all you need to know. Anything else that is said about 9/11 is nonsense.
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by qvh on 16.09.2008 [00:02 ]
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"This cosmonaut recounts in the telecast that, as he watched the immense plume of smoke
spread from New York out over the Atlantic, he took a large number of photos and films
which were sent automatically to both Houston and Moscow. “We have been studying
these images very, very, carefully,” commented the cosmonaut pointedly, “AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME HIGHLY INTERESTING THINGS”
I bet he did.
Those scientists who study these things i.e. nuclear physics etc as well as military experts know what happened. It is an open secret in the scientific community and in some military circles what happened in 9/11.
The Zionist Jews are counting on the masses' ignorance and their ability to be fooled by the mainstream media and also by some gatekeeping elements in the alternative media to keep their crime from being discovered.
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by Crack_Smoke_Republican on 16.09.2008 [00:14 ]
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were RAPED BY F***ING IGNORANT JEWS before their murder at the Ipatiev house.
9/11, the NeoCon Iraq war propaganda, the Armenian Massacre, the Ukrainian Starvation Massacres, the murder of the Romanovs, the Jewish Hungarian Massacres, the Gulags, the attack on the USS Liberty, the murder of Palestinians, the bombing of Lebanon .... all of these add up to a Criminal Jewish campaign to lie, murder and cheat their way to power Globally. Now that their criminal Usury system is fundamentally collapsing — I can only hope that the criminal trials begin for these idiot F***ing Jews that laughed thinking they could scheme their way out of Justice due upon their idiot heads.
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by Crack_Smoke_Republican on 16.09.2008 [01:50 ]
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led a propagandized beguiled people to kill over 1.5 million Iraqis to avenge Jew orchestrated False Flag attacks on 9/11.
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by capncrunch1stOhm on 16.09.2008 [05:49 ]
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quote;
This cosmonaut recounts in the telecast that, as he watched the immense plume of smoke spread from New York out over the Atlantic, he took a large number of photos and films which were sent automatically to both Houston and Moscow. “We have been studying
these images very, very, carefully,” commented the cosmonaut pointedly, “and we have seen some highly interesting things.”
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Im intrested in the cosmonauts professional assessment of the plumes of smoke. Any more info on this?
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by Legolas_Greenleaf on 16.09.2008 [11:34 ]
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www.mininova.org/com/1599583
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by paul pawlowski on 16.09.2008 [12:18 ]
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911 was Drang nach Osten job
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by qvh on 16.09.2008 [12:50 ]
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Google "smoke plume 9/11" images and you will see this is not an ordinary smoke plume. Satellite images show it was created by a super-ordinary event, namely, a nuke.
The smoke plume of 9/11 rivals that of major volcanoes with both kinds of events releasing enormous amounts of energy and characteristic pyroclastic flows.
Like the nukes dropped on Japan, there was temporary darkening of the sky due to the giant smoke plume created and the throwing up of particularized fine debris into the atmosphere.The resultant radioactive cloud drifted over America and onto other continents leaving a residue of radioactivity where the dust settled. If satellite imaging had existed in 1945, they would have shown similar smoke plumes over Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the time of the atomic bombings.
They say all the problems that resulted from 9/11 like cancer deaths and small baby syndrome are due to toxins but that is a smokescreen explanation to hide the enormity of the crime of the Zionists nuking AMERICA.
There is a cancer epidemic among first responders and residents of NYC; this cannot statistically be due to toxins. No toxins are known to cause this kind of cancer rate. Only radioactivity can do this. But they persist in blaming toxins. This is like saying the Hiroshima and Nagasaki victims suffered complications from "toxins".
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by chestergimli on 16.09.2008 [14:20 ]
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if there will be an English version of this television show in Moscow. I would certainly like to see it.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 16.09.2008 [14:37 ]
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Zionist propaganda in the US brainwashes the dumb US people to hate Arabs and to blame Arabs for everything.
Russians are for more intelligent, and not so easily fooled.
Anyone with any sense can see that the official US report on 9/11 was crooked.
Most likely it was a Mossad / CIA job, and the Russians along with the rest of the world are seeing that more and more.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 16.09.2008 [14:47 ]
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Where Israeli agents bombed US and British interests in Egypt to blame Arabs and turn US sentiment in favor of Israel.
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by Ashab_Sayf on 16.09.2008 [14:55 ]
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Interesting questions...
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by TerraHertz on 16.09.2008 [15:18 ]
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Man I hate it when people refer to crucial photo evidence, but the pics are not publicly available.
Lets hope those images taken from the space station turn up on the net some day.
I'm really curious to know what the 'very very interesting' details might be. The ISS doesn't (so far as I know) have good enough telescopes to see details like roof and street items. The planes? Maybe.
I've been suggesting (begging!) in various forums for years that the Russian government should release everything it knows about 911. Which would be a great deal, considering it would include all sorts of US military and air traffic control communications records. Posted preferably on the net. Could this TV program be a trial run for such a move?
That Russia till now has been secretive with this information is one factor that makes me worry that Russia is still actively cooperating with the global elites/illuminati plans for a global government, and that Putin is playing a double game. I don't _want_ to believe this. But I don't see why Russia would help the Bush/NWO gang by remaining silent.
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by susie on 16.09.2008 [16:29 ]
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You are one of several people recently who have openly voiced their concerns about Putin and Russia on this website....
......That Russia till now has been secretive with this information is one factor that makes me worry that Russia is still actively cooperating with the global elites/illuminati plans for a global government, and that Putin is playing a double game. I don't _want_ to believe this. But I don't see why Russia would help the Bush/NWO gang by remaining silent......
I am in agreement with you. it is frustrating that nothing concrete has happened to prove things one way or the other. You have to hope there is some reason why Russian media just doesnt come out with it straight- maybe to do with timing. Wait until the American people are AWARE that they are totally on their knees.Then see what happens.
Regards
susie
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by susie on 16.09.2008 [16:37 ]
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There you go again!lol. more good questions, impossible to answer. Do you have any further links on Brown being a dissobedient ziopawn in light of todays latest puppet (Told to do it in exchange for more power at a later date?)resignation in Scotland, over his alleged mis-handling of-well-everything apparently! Radio 5 already talking about him in the past tense today.
Regards
susie
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by Legolas_Greenleaf on 16.09.2008 [17:21 ]
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the torrent i posted above is in english
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by Ashab_Sayf on 16.09.2008 [17:47 ]
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Thanks for the link.
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by Invictus on 16.09.2008 [18:00 ]
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I am still not convinced that Russia is genuinely independent of Zionist rule.
Even this 9/11 stuff is not proof, unless they reveal that it was the Zionists and not just the American government that did it.
They seem to be careful not to offend the Zionists.
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by Legolas_Greenleaf on 16.09.2008 [18:09 ]
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not the debate...
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by AEK on 16.09.2008 [18:52 ]
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To me has more liked film (Zeitgeist):
http: // video.google.it/videoplay? docid =-1271063760405577325
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by humbaba on 16.09.2008 [20:31 ]
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for a good insight into the major role of the US media giants, 'September Clues' new hi-res version, is worth a look. Starts here
h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXda5Kn2LAM
and also '911 amateur' found here
h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbYAV5fCGiM
a good guide to simplifying 911 atrocity methods.
cheers
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by Nopes on 16.09.2008 [21:09 ]
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If you have two mafia families involved in the same kind of dirty job, don't expect them to rat each other out.
Russia had its own 9/11 before Chechnya war, the same kind of neocon job that happened in the US.
FSB agents bombed apartment buildings in Russian towns. They got caught in the act by Russian police. Official version: Muslim terrorists.
In USA neocons repeated the same con job on greater scale in 2001.
/It's the same pattern as with the Moon landing hoax. Soviets started with their hoaxes (unmanned Moon landing, Gagarin). USA beat them in that lying game with the manned Moon landing hoax.
Orbiting Earth wasn't enough for both countries. They had to be the first, they had to go farther than competition.
That's why they don't talk about it out loud./
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by Q' on 16.09.2008 [21:57 ]
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"Most likely it was a Mossad / CIA job, and the Russians along with the rest of the world are seeing that more and more. "
Definitively Mossad/CIA given the fact the information about those five Israhellis got busted with explosive in the van and caught filming and dancing on the demolition of WTC are classified. Such crimes involves high level of government and also military industrial complex.
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by djandjolik on 16.09.2008 [22:29 ]
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that is mean 4 (four) big jet engines must be inside the WTC building, but surprisingly no "turbine blade shafts" were ever found which can stand to a temperature above 1500C, no landing gears, no black boxes, no single part of these two aircraft were ever found. And yet it is reported that passport of those arabs hijackers were found by fbi outside the WTC before its collapsed.
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by MmArRgDdOnN on 16.09.2008 [22:33 ]
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Are you frindge lunatics really that mentally insane
Say the phuck what
The entire world knows the 9/11 incident was carried out by Islamofascist Terrorist F#ckwads,..., save your obviously demented accusations of the Jews would you,..., it does nothing but reveal just how phucked in the brainbucket you actually are,...,
Listen to these morons folks,..., they are actually trying to blame the Jews,..., that just goes to show you how perverted their mindsets really are and should reveal to you just how much validity the rest of their obviously deluded postings really are,..., if you believe these morons,..., then I guess you are the type to go out buying bridges from the shaddy character on the corner.
Wake the F#CK UP,..., you actually make Bush and company look sane,..., and that is saying alot.
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by _merk_ on 16.09.2008 [22:39 ]
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The patient in room 18:33 needs therapy. Hurry.
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by Tet on 16.09.2008 [22:47 ]
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What can I say, we're only allowed to watch cartoons in this debtors prison. 19-Arabs, indestructible passports, one 48-story collapsing building hit by nothing, 4 planes and not one part, cell phone calls being made traveling at 300mph in 2001 and not one dropped call, Air Force on stand-down, flight controllers not allowed to talk, crash takes place before the market opens not after, $10-trillion pulled from Wall Street in the weeks leading up to the event and best of all two completely defenseless countries standing by to take the blame. One just so happens to be sitting on the world's largest oil field and the other sitting on the world largest Poppy Field. The list goes on and on, you'd have to be completely whacked in the head to believe even 1% of the Official Fairy Tale, but unfortunately most here owe the banksters a lot of debt bucks. Peace.
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by MmArRgDdOnN on 16.09.2008 [22:53 ]
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There you go again accusing others of being bigots when in fact of truth you have come to this site for years spewing nothing but denegrational delusional hatemongered bigotry against the Israelis.
This is so typical folks,..., this stund twat continually uses out of context quotations and perverted but skewed half truths to spread it's mentally infected mindset on the net,..., this stund propagandist actually thinks it has people fooled,..., when in fact it is nothing more than some idiot with delusions of grandeur who thinks it is on some religious quest and that comming to this site spreading it's hatemongered dogma is going to get it martyred,..., seriously folks,..., this idiot has delusions of being a martyr and going to some heaven to be serviced by 72 virgins,..., say what,..., if indeed there is a heaven and hell those that come to this site hatemongering and playing the role of terrorist apologist sure a shite' are not going to some form of Nirvana,..., they are definately headed in the exact opposite direction.
Can you imagine,..., being one of those 72 virgins and having to service some anti-Semetic anti-Israeli anti-Jewish hatemonger for an eternity,..., you definately can bet the family farm those supposed virgins will not be calling it Nirvana.
Take a hike shite',..., your corrupted spin may foll some,..., but not me,..., all you have in your hockey sock is yet more hatemongering against Israel.
By the way,..., notice that the Internationally Recognized Soverign Nation of Israel not only still exists despite your insane musings shite'ee one,..., it is peospering and has the support of over 80% of the entire World's Population and over 80% of the entire World's countries,..., guess that makes you a frindge lunatic doesn't it shite'
What's next folks,..., this stund hatemongering shite' bigot trying to tell us all how we have to accept Mohammad as our prophet and that the only valid religion on this planet is Islam,...,
Get stuffed shite',..., and take your intolerant version of Islam and shove it where the sun doesn't shine,..., we here in the western democracies have long ago rid ourselves of the Yoke of Religious oppression and we will definately not be heading back into the Dark Aged Mentality of Hatemongered Claptrapology your peddling.
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by Legolas_Greenleaf on 16.09.2008 [22:57 ]
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you are a faerie and you probably walk funny.
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by Tet on 16.09.2008 [22:58 ]
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What's with all the ,..., 's? Didn't some other cartoon believer post exactly like that? Who was that? Thanks
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by MmArRgDdOnN on 16.09.2008 [22:59 ]
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You are right about something in your post,..., there is definately a few posting to this thread that are definately candidates for the funny farm,..., then again,..., you should know shouldn't you,..., you are right up there amongst the candidates for extended care,...,
What,..., you still trying to sell that tired old anti-Israeli anti-Semetic anti-Jewish hatemongered spin,..., man-oman that crap is just soooo boring,..., nothing there but some idiot trying to spew it's prejustical dogma,..., you don't want peace in the mid-East,..., you don't give a rat's arse about the fact that your prattle is making the creation of a Palistinian Homeland harder to acheice,..., all you care about is to satiate that mentally diseased mindset of yours that is infected with bigoted bullshite'.
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by MmArRgDdOnN on 16.09.2008 [23:01 ]
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If you indeed are Tet then you definately would be used to the ,..., by now
So just who is posting as Tet anyway.
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by MmArRgDdOnN on 16.09.2008 [23:11 ]
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Hey Tet,..., don't you have an anniversary comming up,..., I wish to extend my best wishes but insist that you tell me exactly what anniversary I am referring to or I will really start to suspect that your handle is being abused.
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by Tet on 16.09.2008 [23:27 ]
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I checked the archives, but they're gone. Have you been a bad boy again? Was it Lurker who typed like that or was Lurker you anyway? After six years it's hard to tell one from another without a program. Peace.
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by MmArRgDdOnN on 16.09.2008 [23:49 ]
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Come on now,..., Tet happens to be a rather civil individual that rarely resorts to denegrational diatribe,..., so answer the question,..., don't forget,..., I know the correct answer,..., name the Anniversary and quote the years involved,..., while your at it,..., try a little less lurkeresque crank yanking,..., if you can not answer that question then I for one know you are a phoney.
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by Paperinoisback on 17.09.2008 [00:17 ]
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Has anyone here from Russia recorded the programme? Is the recording available as torrent?
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by verve on 17.09.2008 [00:30 ]
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'the therapy'........that's for me, not him.
None the less...........
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by _merk_ on 17.09.2008 [00:47 ]
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ah.
And here I was dreaming of you giving him a lobotomy.
Well this thread is way too good to let him derail it and I'm ignoring him now and paying attention.
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by verve on 17.09.2008 [00:52 ]
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good god man, what the fuck's up with you?
Iranian-Shite is the most civil person on this site. Preaching (ever heard a ziobaptist?) no more bigotry than I (sqatting on stolen land btw, is dispicable. paying rabid fanatical religious assholes to come and steal anothers land, poison their livestock and water sources and enticing their children to blow themselves up to advance ones pathetic attempt for attention, that's fucking criminal, geddyson, and you fucking know it) and I have nothing against jews perse, anymore than I have against some cocksuckin' prick 'mick' daytrader skimming off the top of Grannys 401K. Mammonites are mammonites. Users, practicing preditoy financial capitalism, living off the pain and suffering of others. Death becomes them, geddy, sooner or later. And if you're following along with the financial news today, paybacks a bitch.
On a professional note, geddyson..........pop by the clinic, I'll re-write your 'scrip, something stronger perhaps.................
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by verve on 17.09.2008 [01:01 ]
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apparently he fell from the stupid tree when he was six or seven, unfortunitly, he hit all the branches on the way down........it's more of a chemical embalance, but the lobotomy........hmmmmm.......that does sound promising. wanna assist?
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by _merk_ on 17.09.2008 [01:26 ]
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I'll do the anesthesia! Long lasting variety...
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by capncrunch1stOhm on 17.09.2008 [01:40 ]
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heres a critique on topic. Its source however is "BBC monitering former Soviet Union". In my opinion the source is dubious. Dubious as BBC may be , It is preliminary insight for us that havent seen debate yet. I need transcript copy in russian and will translate
http: //www.redorbit.com/news/entertainment/1555962/russian_tv_holds_debate_on_controversial_911_film/
TET, LF site, Any info?
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by Sandy on 17.09.2008 [03:02 ]
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Hey , this MIssing Links video is one of the best I have seen, even zionist Mrarmageddon cant deny the truths here. Myabe if he was actually an American first he would realise there are some traitors in the nest, called fifth column from past days and at present he is aligned with them.
ht tp://wideeyecinema.com/?p=245 see "MIssing Links, the definitive truth about 911" and dares to describe and document the Israeli attacks upon USA and British targets as false flags terrorist events that occured prior. No American can watch this without graet anger! No nonamerican can watch this without compassion for the vicitms and amazement at the traitorous coverups and how they got away with it and WHY they would cover up attacks upon Americans by Israelis!
enjoy
zap
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by stоpwar on 17.09.2008 [05:05 ]
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I notice that our record of the first mainstream news story questioning the official 9/11 story has been deleted. Also, the wayback machine seems to be out of order (is that what you were referring to, Tet?)
However, the comments are still there, and if you want to check it out the URL is:
www.iraq-war.ru/article/59483
I wonder how people will be perceiving "the cause of 9/11" in five hundred years time? Will it be a part of the Zionist "religion"? A matter for believers only?
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