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'Hellish' torture images shock US lawmakers
By: Vicki Allen on: 16.05.2009 [04:40 ] (3186 reads)
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'Hellish' torture images shock US lawmakers
May 13 2004 at 01:59AM
By Vicki Allen
Washington - Members of the United States congress saw new images of violence and sexual humiliation from a US-run Iraqi prison on Wednesday in a closed viewing one lawmaker likened to a descent into "the wings of hell".
Lawmakers said images showed inmates apparently being coerced to commit sodomy, wounds possibly from dog bites, a number of dead bodies, and examples of "sadistic torture" and "sexual humiliation."
Some top Republicans urged that the still pictures and video not be released publicly, saying they could endanger US forces overseas.
'What we saw is appalling'
"What we saw is appalling. It is consistent with the photos that you've seen in the press to date. They go beyond that in many ways in terms of the various activities that are depicted," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.
"There were some awful scenes. It felt like you were descending into one of the wings of hell and sadly it was our own creation," said Senator Richard Durbin, an Illinois Democrat. "And when you think of the sadism, the violence, the sexual humiliation, after a while you just turn away, you just can't take it any more."
"I still cannot believe that this happened without the knowledge of those at higher levels," Durbin added.
Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned last week the pictures could worsen a scandal that ignited international outrage and shook US global prestige as the United States seeks to stabilise Iraq.
Senators and members of the House of Representatives had a chance over several hours to look at about 1 600 images in separate secure rooms in a presentation conducted by the Pentagon, which kept custody of the material.
'Terrible scenes. ... It was click, click, click'
Many lawmakers said the images were similar to photographs shown around the world of naked prisoners stacked in a pyramid or positioned to simulate sex acts at the Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad, but they said some were even more shocking.
Lawmakers said they did not see examples of outright rape, murder or abuses of children.
Senator Peter Fitzgerald, an Illinois Republican, said "many of the same people were involved over and over" in the photographs. "I didn't see different characters than the ones who have been in the newspapers," he said.
Durbin described a picture of a man with half his head "blown off," lying on the ground in blood and gore, but said there was no explanation of where that was taken.
An Islamic website on Tuesday showed an American civilian, Nick Berg of suburban Philadelphia, being beheaded by an al-Qaeda leader in Iraq in revenge for the "Satanic degradation" of Iraqi prisoners.
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, a Kansas Republican, whose committee had a closed-door hearing with Stephen Cambone, defence undersecretary for intelligence, said there were "44 CIA people in and out of" Abu Ghraib prison, "a lot during the evening, over a period of time."
Congress is trying to establish whether the mistreatment was encouraged by intelligence personnel to "soften up" prisoners for interrogations.
Roberts also said two other US prisons in Iraq were mentioned in the latest material, "but the abuses were not as severe."
Representative Jane Harman, a California Democrat, said the new pictures showed "cruel and sadistic torture."
She described as "gut wrenching" images of a nearly naked man "handcuffed to a wall, beating his head against the wall, recoiling back and forward, probably trying to knock himself unconscious and avoid having to live through the experience."
Lawmakers said the images were shown fairly rapidly and with minimal explanation. Senator James Jeffords, a Vermont independent, said the pictures were "horrible. But they go by so fast. Terrible scenes. ... It was click, click, click."
Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, a Virginia Republican, urged that the images not be released before trials related to the abuses of detainees at the Abu Ghraib prison.
"I feel very strongly that these photographs should not be made public. I feel that it could possibly endanger the men and the women of the armed forces as they are serving and at great risk," Warner said.
(Additional reporting by Anna Willard, Thomas Ferraro, Tabassum Zakaria and Donna Smith)
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=3&art_id=qw1084406401417B262&set_id=1
by _merk_ on 16.05.2009 [05:15 ]
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some went out for drinks and dinner, some met their favorite prostitute, others had their nails polished and hair done. If they felt any stress at all, it was about someone leaking some of the images or about making appropriate fake-shock comments to the media. Otherwise, nothing to worry or get upset about ... just another day in the lives of highly compensated mass murderers.
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by informatron- on 16.05.2009 [11:03 ]
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"An Islamic website on Tuesday showed an American civilian, Nick Berg of suburban Philadelphia, being beheaded by an al-Qaeda leader in Iraq in revenge for the "Satanic degradation" of Iraqi prisoners."
Rest assured this Islamist site is CIA. Just ask: Who Benefits?
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by mppeace on 16.05.2009 [12:48 ]
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By saying that the release of torture photos would "inflame anti-American sentiments" and endanger U.S. Invader troops, the Obama regime is reviving the shameful Cheney-Bush policy of "shooting the messenger"! Instead of putting the torturers on trial for their crimes, the Obama logic is essentially turning on those who advocate the release of the photos of despicable tortures, and accusing them of "aiding and abetting" the "enemies" of the USA Empire! Is this the way for Obama to regain the respect of the World??
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by djandjolik on 16.05.2009 [15:37 ]
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a torture at all, just a foul play!!!!
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by pilot-x on 16.05.2009 [16:04 ]
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of Iraq since 1991.
18 years.
Bad karma nearing adulthood.
Bad time in history to be American. Sniffer dogs acceptable at police checkpoints on U.S. highways. Satanic degradation of U.S. also.
Fascinating. Torture just to witness this great social unravelling. Rest assured those who preach torture today shall come to regret it when they are slapped around when they are old.
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by Richard on 16.05.2009 [17:25 ]
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This latest emphasis on these torture photos has a distinct psy-op feel to it.
In the US, there is an emphasis on "new" photographs being leaked.
But the photos are not new, they've been seen before. The man covered in excrement with his arms straight out, the picture above, we've all seen them. This particular article is from 2004.
So what's going on? The real hardcore photos and videos will never be seen by the public and notice how we never see any photos with women or children. What about the videos of "rape and murder" in the Pentagon's possession? What about the children who were tortured in front of their parents, to get them to talk?
It seems like they are trying to say to the public "the torture committed against Iraqis really wasn't so bad. Look, see? The man is just hanging upside down, no big deal."
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by Richard on 16.05.2009 [17:29 ]
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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1861
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What also has not been revealed to the American public is that the sexual humiliation of Islamic prisoners and rape of women detainees is actually an Israeli Jewish practice used by the Zionists against the Palestinians. These interrogation techniques were taught by Israeli operatives to the CIA and Military Police at the Abu Ghraib prison and in fact these operatives participated directly in the torture at Abu Ghraib under cover of "private consultants". It is believed that at least three known Israeli MOSSAD agents where at Abu Ghraib directing the torture as "interrogators" in the service of Pentagon "contractors".
Recently, a Palestinian female freed from Israeli detention said more than 15 fellow Palestinian women were raped by Israeli interrogators to force them to confess to charges leveled against them and collaborate with the Israeli intelligence.
"Israeli investigators and intelligence officers keep video tapes of the raping to blackmail the female detainees," she told an Islamic news service, requesting anonymity.
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by Richard on 16.05.2009 [18:22 ]
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http://www.alternet.org/rights/140022/little_known_military_thug_squad_still_brutalizing_prisoners_at_gitmo_under_obama/
As the Obama administration continues to fight the release of some 2,000 photos that graphically document U.S. military abuse of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan, an ongoing Spanish investigation is adding harrowing details to the ever-emerging portrait of the torture inside and outside Guantánamo. Among them: "blows to the testicles;" "detention underground in total darkness for three weeks with deprivation of food and sleep;" being "inoculated … through injection with 'a disease for dog cysts;'" the smearing of feces on prisoners; and waterboarding. The torture, according to the Spanish investigation, all occurred "under the authority of American military personnel" and was sometimes conducted in the presence of medical professionals.
More significantly, however, the investigation could for the first time place an intense focus on a notorious, but seldom discussed, thug squad deployed by the U.S. military to retaliate with excessive violence to the slightest resistance by prisoners at Guantánamo.
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by Richard on 16.05.2009 [18:52 ]
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http://humantrafficking.change.org/blog/view/slave_next_door_exposes_us_govt_sanctioned_slavery
Boondoggles, pork barrels, and shoddy work are scandalous, but it was another, uglier issue that brought First Kuwaiti to the world's attention. Some of their contract workers had been trafficked to Iraq against their will, held by force, and paid little or nothing. First Kuwaiti - and by association, the U.S. Department of State - were using slave labor to build the embassy. Taxpayers were footing the bill. The idea of a U.S. subcontractor trafficking enslaved workers into the country where we are waging a war to introduce freedom and democracy, is unthinkable. And yet, in case after case, the construction company hired workers, normally through sub-contractors, from India, Pakistan, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Sierra Leone, Egypt, Turkey, and the Philippines under false pretenses. Falsely promised work in Dubai, they were landed in a combat zone. Once in Iraq contractors confiscated the workers' passports, forced them to live in squalid conditions, and to work long hours for little or no pay.
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by Richard on 16.05.2009 [19:07 ]
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http://abutamam.blogspot.com/2009/05/average-americans-stand-behind-their.html
Here's a great quote from this article:
"What's funny about all of this is, (as Rick Salutin so aptly put it), is the idiotic American assumption that the rest of the world is as ignorant about America's terrible record of human-rights abuses, as the Average American is."
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by informatron- on 16.05.2009 [20:49 ]
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Your article assumes that If Americans KNOW they would be out raged.
NO!
They have been so numbed by the ziomedia, they don't know what is right from wrong. Sorry.
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by informatron- on 16.05.2009 [20:51 ]
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;-)
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by bilbo on 16.05.2009 [22:25 ]
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Sure, such atrocities are committed by Amerikkka and the ZioSwine of IsraHell but also by all countries of the Middle and Near east, Asia, and South America. Maybe Europe, too.
These dehumanizing and vicious practices are common and widespread throughout the world.
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by informatron- on 16.05.2009 [22:45 ]
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Comment biibo, so is it right?
NO!
Why?
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by Richard on 17.05.2009 [02:47 ]
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The article averred no such thing. quote:
"None the less, you can see from the above poll, how seriously Americans take their often-proclaimed devotion to "freedom of the press", "transparency", etc. — they're all in favor of showing the facts; that is, until the facts don't show their actions in a favourable light."
Amerikans know that our country was born of genocide, slavery and extreme human degradation, but still, most accept the popular "freedom and human rights" mythology. The Ziomedia is not responsible for that.
It is your own assertion which exculpates the US masses, characterizing us as "victims" of propaganda. The US public has a very exaggerated and overblown sense of themselves and the media is a reflection and outgrowth of that sense.
All understand right from wrong.
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by Richard on 17.05.2009 [02:50 ]
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That's # 11 or 12 I think.
;-)
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by gmmonko on 17.05.2009 [03:08 ]
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...and Christians are still masturbating.
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by honeycomb42 on 17.05.2009 [05:14 ]
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if obama had released the photos he would have show the US had made a clean break from Bush and Cheney.
Instead hes shown nothing has changed and that hes a tool of the Pentagon.
Soldiers and CIA ops will understand they can get away with anything. Just dont keep cameras around.
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by Alpumot6 on 17.05.2009 [07:06 ]
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And this picture is probably the least horrible one out of all of them. It reminds me of how here in America when these gangs go out, especially at night, acting big and start picking on people who happen to be passing by. They think they could do bad things to the person and get away with it. What you read in the news and hear about what Americans do to each other, it won't surprise you what they do in other countries when they attack them. Although their crimes in other countries are more harsh, they seem to come from the same stupid and barbaric mentality. It's just that they can get away with more stuff when committing crimes in foreign countires. One time in New York City a couple years back, a guy suspected his girlfriend was cheating on him because he saw her in a bar. He threw acid at her face and disfigured her face. Lots of crazy people here. It is funny how America was accusing "evil" Saddam of torturing and making all sorts of crimes, yet when they went to Iraq they did all and even more of what they were accusing "evil" Saddam of doing. "Evil" Saddam may be gone, but there are many "Saddams" in the Middle East who will continue to fight against evil people. It may be that most Arabs will be killed in a major war before things get better.
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by pilot-x on 17.05.2009 [08:01 ]
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How many homeless women and prostitutes murdered in Vancouver during the the Picton Pig farm incident? 100 or so. Ho hum, but WHOA when that woman was executed by the taliban in the soccer stadium all fire and concern for "womens rights" bla bla. The hypocrisy of western gentry is stunning beyond belief. And yes, nowhere in North America is it safe to walk the streets without hoots whistles and catcalls or worse. Zero elegance or class. Simply horrible. Your reference to most Arabs getting killed is another matter. I emenate heartfelt prayers that they can gain access to adequate health care housing food clean water and friends the basic daily fare for us all.
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by stоpwar on 17.05.2009 [09:20 ]
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Dont kid yourself!
Human beings are a flawed species, and many "good Western people" are very open to manipulation.
A psychological experiment that has been repeated over and over again since the 1960s shows that about 70% of random civilised Western people, under controlled conditions, would administer fatal electric shocks to a complete stranger who had done no wrong, just because someone in authority told them to do so.
The Germsn citizens were brainwashed in the 1930s - what makes you think US (or British) citizens are any different?
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 17.05.2009 [15:31 ]
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The US criticizes other nations for human rights abuses.
Nations like Iran and Cuba might take harsh measures to prevent CIA activities from destabilizing their countries.
The USA, on the other hand, engages in for more frequent harsh measures and also mass murder in order to increase global domination, economic conquest, and hegemony.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 17.05.2009 [15:36 ]
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" . . . that the sexual humiliation of Islamic prisoners and rape of women detainees is actually an Israeli Jewish practice used by the Zionists against the Palestinians."
Just as a historical aside, I've read that the first to invent these practices against Muslims were French occupiers in Algeria.
I don't know how accurate that it, but it seems likely.
I suspect that Abu Ghraib tortures and Zionist tortures are built on the practices that the French invented in Algeria.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 17.05.2009 [15:42 ]
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"So what's going on? The real hardcore photos and videos will never be seen by the public and notice how we never see any photos with women or children. What about the videos of "rape and murder" in the Pentagon's possession? What about the children who were tortured in front of their parents, to get them to talk? "
Torturing children in front of parents was a practice that the x-Shah's secret police learned from CIA training. The current Iranian government's harsh measures are no where near as horrifying as the x-Shah's secret police's practices, but the x-Shah was praised and congratulated by his masters in the White House.
Saddam's secret police also received some training from the CIA. Yet the USA found him to be useful for over a decade, and protected Saddam in the UN after he gassed the Kurdish.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 17.05.2009 [15:45 ]
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" . . . the idiotic American assumption that the rest of the world is as ignorant about America's terrible record of human-rights abuses, as the Average American is."
You are making some good points Richard.
Most of the world knows about the sorts of things that the USA did in places like Central America and South East Asia.
Survivors and witnesses told the tales.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 17.05.2009 [15:49 ]
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"Ho hum, but WHOA when that woman was executed by the taliban in the soccer stadium all fire and concern for "womens rights" bla bla."
Right. US bombs rip women and children to shreds, and its all ok in the US media. It gets the faintest coverage with a US military representative being allowed to have the last word.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 17.05.2009 [15:51 ]
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The woman in the soccer stadium had murdered her husband, if I recall that correctly.
The women in Afghan villages today, or Cambodian villages in a previous war, were blown to pieces by US bombs had done nothing wrong.
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by bilbo on 17.05.2009 [15:56 ]
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Sadism and the tendency for practicing psychological and physical cruelty against others(including animals) is endemic in the human race.
Humankind is a virulent, malignant disease on this planet. Truth is, we all stink, we're all rotten and evil at a core, fundamental level. We're all Satan's spawn whether Jew, Christian, or Moslem, or adherents to any other belief system.
Of course, those wallowing in their own self righteousness and hypocrisy believe otherwise.
Your shit reeks just as badly as mine and mine just as badly as yours.
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by Richard on 17.05.2009 [16:28 ]
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quote:
"70% of random civilised Western people, under controlled conditions, would administer fatal electric shocks to a complete stranger who had done no wrong, just because someone in authority told them to do so."
So then in Western culture 7 out of 10 people are so passive and obedient to authority that they would kill(fatal electric shocks) an innocent stranger simply because someone ordered it?
What is the difference between the three who refuse and the seven who comply?
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by Richard on 17.05.2009 [16:37 ]
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Very good points. I recall reading somewhere the same details of the French in Algeria.
Recently, there was a US Senator, Lindsay Graham, who pronounced his high praise for the Spanish Inquisition, in defense of Bush's torture policy, saying in effect that torture works very well and that is why those techniques have been around for 500 years, "because they work".
Graham is a Republican who most would characterize as "moderate".
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by Richard on 17.05.2009 [16:45 ]
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quote:
"Sadism and the tendency for practicing psychological and physical cruelty against others(including animals) is endemic in the human race. Humankind is a virulent, malignant disease on this planet."
Are you including yourself in this characterization of humankind?
We all have within us the capacity for evil, certainly. Love and hate, empathy and cruelty, charity and greed, all of these in pairs within.
All of the great philosophers, sages and prophets from time immemorial have taught us that the aim of life is conquering the evil within us.
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by Richard on 17.05.2009 [16:54 ]
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quote:
18:252 It is easy to see the faults of others, but difficult to see one's own faults. One shows the faults of others like chaff winnowed in the wind, but one conceals one's own faults as a cunning gambler conceals his dice.
18:253 If a man sees the sins of others and forever thinks of their faults, his own sins increase forever and far off is he from the end of his faults.
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by Richard on 17.05.2009 [17:32 ]
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http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/05/16/florida-officials-43-children-zapped-by-stun-gun-during-prison-tour/
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According to information released Saturday by the Florida Department of Corrections: During “Take Our Children to Work Day” events at three prison facilities, 43 children were hit with stun guns while others were exposed to tear gas.
...the children, who ranged in age from 5 to 17, were all children of prison officials.” “The jolt sent at least two of them sprawling to the floor, crying out in pain and clutching at agonizing burns on their arms. One child ended up in hospital”...
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by winterwings on 17.05.2009 [18:20 ]
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To each his own understanding of the human race and the travesties of man's inhumanity to man, but in another light, this planet is but a school, and we are only passing through. It may even depend on what planet you hail from whether you pass this school or not. The mysteries of the Universe are endless and we are but babes, not yet from the womb. Knowledge is the key.
wings
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by pilot-x on 17.05.2009 [18:33 ]
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Unbelievable Richard. As a wee child I was at a picnic with my dad and he had a paint can full of gasoline for cleaning car parts. I jokinly held a pack of matches over it and pretended to light one. My dad horrified ran over and smacked my head so hard I saw stars. Ever since i have had to repress the urge to hit him back. Hence my prior statements about the torturers of today being slapped around when they are old. The poor kid liable to suffer "sudden unexplained death" an ever handy diagnosis in stun gun incidents.
Next we'll see folks with gas powered arc welders idling in the trunk "for protection"
"Taser perfectly safe" claims the maker of these twisted murderous UN chastised torture devices. Ohhh Kayyyy.
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by informatron- on 17.05.2009 [18:33 ]
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Except armedegon, and this robot is absent becuase no keywords: Anti-zionist, Killers, FUSA.
Watch comes next.
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by informatron- on 17.05.2009 [18:38 ]
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Killer, zionist, israel, wall,
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by pilot-x on 17.05.2009 [18:48 ]
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Iran, the mother of all keywords. heh
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by Richard on 17.05.2009 [18:55 ]
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Yes, it is hard to believe. These prison officials are doing this to their own children? What might they do to someone else's child? Truth is stranger than fiction, as they say.
Very much enjoy reading your posts, pilot.
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by winterwings on 17.05.2009 [18:59 ]
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I am no theologian, but aparently Jesus was a really good teacher, and it is written that he crossed many seas and rivers to teach the word of God, not just HIS God, the God that lives within us all, but, in the end, he was killed by his own people for telling a very simple truth. It was not Jesus, the man, who should have been crucified, or worshiped, nor did he ever ask for either to happen. He taught only that knowledge, truth and LOVE, are the light and the way. What’s so hard about those three things? The powers that govern any invisible borders on this planet are man-made, and man-made laws are not natural. They will eventually fail because they do not understand the code of the Creator. Man’s laws are destructive, violent, and devoid of reason for life. In man's world, God is only an icon. We all live in God's world.
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by pilot-x on 17.05.2009 [19:11 ]
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and theres my old chum Steve the longest haired, patched jeans wearing motorcycle daredevil hard drinking rebel in our 1971 school posting from his job as a prison guard. "go figure" he says. LOL
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by Richard on 17.05.2009 [19:22 ]
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We can imagine Jesus entering the courts of the Temple with the whip in his hand.
First he drives out the animals who were being sold for sacrifice. Slitting the throat of a defenseless animal for the sake of pleasing God represents a kind of crude spiritual backwardness. The Temple did indeed perpetuate violence and cruelty in the name of God.
So we should think of the Nazarene as a kind of historic precursor to something like the Animal Liberation Front.
Next, Jesus goes after the moneychangers. RAAARRGH!!(whip-crack noises)
"You have turned my house of prayer into a den of robbers!!!" he cried.
Now he's on the run, hiding from the authorities.
We could imagine a modern-day Jesus being featured prominently on "America's Most Wanted", or any other crime-stopper type of TV program.
"Be on the lookout for Jesus of Nazareth. A violent radical heretic with brass-colored feet and hair like wool. He is considered armed and dangerous."
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by bilbo on 17.05.2009 [19:55 ]
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Decades upon this earth have taught me, through experience and observation, that the entity that's called God is really Satan in disguise and we humans, his spawn.
Humankind is just as vile and corrupt today as thousands of years ago.
Those who claim to be Christians are filled to the brim with the pus of hypocrisy. All organized religion is a curse. All religion is a big mindfuck.
Everyone's shit stinks just as horribly as anyone else's.
For all practical purposes, humankind has not learned much over the last several thousand years except new concepts and techniques of inflicting suffering on those around us. We humans are just as bestial today as millennia ago.
May this world be purged of all of us.
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by pilot-x on 17.05.2009 [19:57 ]
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Just don't make jesus mad.
"You won't like me when I'm angry" he said, as he swept up the mess he had just made, the money changers being to cheap to hire a janitor.
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by informatron- on 17.05.2009 [21:05 ]
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winterwings blah, blah, blah, without action!
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by informatron- on 17.05.2009 [21:08 ]
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;-)
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by winterwings on 17.05.2009 [23:04 ]
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Bilbo: First of all I said Jesus was a good teacher, I did not say savior. Religions of men create Savior’s and heroes for themselves to follow, but good teachers are hard to find.
Religions and governments are absolutely meaningless in world that stands by while young souls are being tortured and killed before they have the opportunity to reach that door of knowledge. Wasn't that the beginning sin in the Bibie? When Adam and Eve discovered the tree of knowledge? I think it's all the lies and deception of the "elite" what's making you sick. It makes me sick too.
informatron: What action would YOU take?
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 17.05.2009 [23:56 ]
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Enemies of Jesus could take him out of context to make him look irrationally violent.
According to the New Testament, he had told his disciples before they went to the garden of Gethsemane: Those of you who do not have a sword, sell your garments and by one.
And in Luke:
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me.
Luke 19:27
www.religiousstudies.uncc.edu/jdtabor/luke.html
We all know that Jesus was a man of peace, but his enemies who would discredit him could take him out of context to villainize him.
In modern days he would be discredited and his words taken out of context to try to make him appear violent and irrational.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 18.05.2009 [00:45 ]
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I think its clear to everyone here that if Jesus were to return now he would support the Palestinians.
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by pilot-x on 18.05.2009 [02:21 ]
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with brass-colored feet and hair like wool was seen down at the river wildly sticking a sword into a big sandpile mumbling Build-a-burger, Build-a-burger, Builda-Burger...
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