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US Begins Massive Military Build Up Around Iran, Sending Up To 4 New Carrier Groups In Region
By: Tyler Durden on: 21.05.2010 [13:34 ] (1675 reads)
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USS Truman is deploying: There is considerable international discussion that the confrontation between Iran and the international community over its nuclear programme may change in character into a major war between Iran and either US or Israel or both in conjunction with allies such as the United Kingdom.
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As if uncontrollable economic contagion was not enough for the administration, Obama is now willing to add geopolitical risk to the current extremely precarious economic and financial situation. Over at Debkafile we read that the president has decided to "boost US military strength in the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf regions in the short term with an extra air and naval strike forces and 6,000 Marine and sea combatants." With just one aircraft carrier in proximity to Iran, the Nobel peace prize winner has decided to send a clear message that peace will no longer be tolerated, and has decided to increase the US aircraft carrier presence in the region by a 400-500% CAGR.
From Debka:
Carrier Strike Group 10, headed by the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier, sails out of the US Navy base at Norfolk, Virginia Friday, May 21. On arrival, it will raise the number of US carriers off Iranian shores to two. Up until now, President Barack Obama kept just one aircraft carrier stationed off the coast of Iran, the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower in the Arabian Sea, in pursuit of his policy of diplomatic engagement with Tehran.
For the first time, too, the US force opposite Iran will be joined by a German warship, the frigate FGS Hessen, operating under American command.
It is also the first time that Obama, since taking office 14 months ago, is sending military reinforcements to the Persian Gulf. Our military sources have learned that the USS Truman is just the first element of the new buildup of US resources around Iran. It will take place over the next three months, reaching peak level in late July and early August. By then, the Pentagon plans to have at least 4 or 5 US aircraft carriers visible from Iranian shores.
The USS Truman's accompanying Strike Group includes Carrier Air Wing Three (Battle Axe) - which has 7 squadrons - 4 of F/A-18 Super Hornet and F/A-18 Hornet bomber jets, as well as spy planes and early warning E-2 Hawkeyes that can operate in all weather conditions; the Electronic Attack Squadron 130 for disrupting enemy radar systems; and Squadron 7 of helicopters for anti-submarine combat (In its big naval exercise last week, Iran exhibited the Velayat 89 long-range missile for striking US aircraft carriers and Israel warships from Iranian submarines.)
Another four US warships will be making their way to the region to join the USS Truman and its Strike Group. They are the guided-missile cruiser USS Normandy and guided missile destroyers USS Winston S. Churchill, USS Oscar Austin and USS Ross.
We can't wait for Iran to feel completely unthreatened by this escalation and to decide to take no action whatsoever as the Nobelists push it even more into a corner from which the only escape, to a rational player, would be outright aggression... Which begs the question just how an irrational player would react.
Link: www.zerohedge.com/article/us-begins-massive-military-build-around-iran-sending-4-new-carrier-groups-region
In 410-4 Vote, House Approves Millions in Extra Funding for Israel's Missile Defense
The Iron Dome system is intended for "very short range" rocket fire, primarily the intermittent rockets from the Gaza Strip that hit open fields in southern Israel, and would be completely useless against any missile from as far away as Iran, nuclear or otherwise. In fact, this was one of the major reasons Israel was seeking the money, as many questioned the wisdom of spending $50,000 per missile to shoot down commodity rockets that cost only a few hundreds dollars apiece, and the Israeli military declined to include the project in its own budget. The four Representatives voting against the resolution were John Conyers (D – MI), Dennis Kucinich (D – OH), Ron Paul (R – TX), and Pete Stark (D – CA).
Considering a war with Iran: A discussion paper on WMD in the Middle East
link: www.cisd.soas.ac.uk/Editor/assets/iran%20study%2007.07.pdf
Debka is a decent source if you want to know what Netan-the-Yahoo scrawled on his last spittle-flecked deranged fax to the White House.
As to Iran's best next move:
(1) withdraw from the NPT and declare a policy of 'nuclear ambiguity' - citing 'Israel' as its template (hence, also forbidding the IAEA from undertaking inspections, like 'Israel' does).
(2) fire one of their SS-NX-26 Yahkonts anti-shipping missiles (sans warhead) at any carrier in the Straits of Hormuz. Make sure it misses by about 50 meters - just so that the crew knows that Phalanx is USELESS against anything with volatile-path guidance. If the yanks whine, claim that the radar signature of the carrier made it look like a fighter aircraft on an attack vector.
If the US starts a show using floating targets (that's what an aircraft carrier is, since the invention of the Exocet - and the Yahkonts is five times as lethal), then all it means is that it will lose a carrier. That won't play well in Peoria.
Point (2), in case you didn't recognise it, is a variant of the 'dominant strategy' for CHina in the event that the US sent a floating target to 'protect' Taiwan... the Chinese would lob a small low-yield nuke into the sea 500km in front of the CBG and send an e-mail to WhiteHouse.gov saying "The next one won't just boil fish". (Although I suppose these days you would send a tweet).
Good to see that Obama is continuing the US's policy of pissing off as large a slice of the world as possible. That worked so well for the Romans, the Poms, the French, the Dutch, the Spanish, the Ottomans... but this time it's different.
Navy Times agrees that the Truman is deploying.
The Pilot online says:
They’re scheduled to spend at least six months at sea, mostly in the Middle East, Persian Gulf and northern Africa. They’ll likely support group troops operating in Afghanistan.
link: www.navytimes.com/news/2010/05/navy_truman_deploy_051810w/
where are the carriers?
link: www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/where.htm
by LittleHelper on 21.05.2010 [17:44 ]
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This is the usual Debka bullshit.
What we observe in reality is a normal changing of guard.
For technical and logistical reasons, the US carrier strike groups do
stay abroad for longer than 6 months. After 6 months in service,
they usually return to their naval home base.
The USS Harry S. Truman carrier strike group 10 simply detaches
in June the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier strike group which
has been in the region around the Persian gulf since January 1, 2010.
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by anti-hyena on 21.05.2010 [17:48 ]
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I think it is the barge carting WTC scrap metal off to China, no?
I wouldn't waste a nice $500 missile on it, it's gonna sink on its own.
And btw, Roman empire spanned 6-7 centuries and they were damn good at it, so were the Ottomans, meanwhile the Pee-NAC fell off the shelf within a decade (made in Kikestan, what do you expect?)
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by LittleHelper on 21.05.2010 [18:21 ]
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The sentence "For technical and logistical reasons, the US carrier
strike groups do stay abroad for longer than 6 months" should
read as follows:
"For technical and logistical reasons, the US carrier strike groups do
NOT stay abroad for longer than 6 months".
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by djandjolik on 21.05.2010 [19:28 ]
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steel coffin
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by sealion on 21.05.2010 [22:54 ]
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Another IDIOTIC poster quoting LYING STINKING Debka without checking story first...
BS#1 - QUOTE:
"the Pentagon plans to have at least 4 or 5 US aircraft carriers visible from Iranian shores."
If true, these would become artificial reefs within the first day of action, as Iran's supersonic anti-ship missiles shore and submarine based - Sunburn, Yakhont and Sizzler/Klub-S - with 100+ miles range would have a field day...
Usually, the US tries to park its heavy ship out of range of such missiles, as it knows only too well that it has NO DEFENSE against these weapons...
BS #2 - Only the aircraft carrier Eisenhower is in the vicinity of Iran: all the others are far away or busy with other chores and/or maintenance:
ht tp://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html
It relieved the Nimitz on January 2010 and will be gone from the area around June 2010 - after the usual 6 months tour - when it will be replaced by another one...
In fact I have never seen such a small 5th Fleet naval deployment around Iran than at present:
ht tp://www.navy.mil/navydata/navy_legacy_hr.asp?id=146
Please, whoever posted this GARBAGE from LYING Stinking Debka, check your sources on the Internet before making an ass of yourself
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by sjreese on 22.05.2010 [02:19 ]
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This board is to provide information about the WAR and the NEXT War
It is not cool to persuade our people to treat each other and themselves with disrespect.
There's no excuse for using Iraq-war.ru as a "psyop" to demean, insult, embarrass or harass another person. Bullying, whether in this case is reprehensible.
We need to marginalize such bullies, in our discussions here on Iraqwar.ru. We need to teach our young people that bullying is neither acceptable nor normal in this case. Every one of us has to start modeling how we want our people to behave. That way we learn from each other about the WAR and we teach by how we act.
@sealion
Your sources are okay; but they are not known as being a good source of intelligence... While the Zionist site points to their hopes and wishes (as noted above).
Second your beliefs and trust in untested weapons are over rated. Lastly the people who know iraqwar.ru know how to put the story together.
- Check the source (pos/neg)
- Check the story (True/False)
- If true
- Check the rational (plausible/deniability)
- If plausible
- Check the politics (arms buildup) then
- Check the whereabouts using (open independent sources)
- Lastly ask what are the options on the table?
And...
IT IS UP TO YOU TO CONTINUE OUR PEOPLES STRUGGLE
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by sealion on 22.05.2010 [07:52 ]
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Debka is a DISINFORMATION Website where no information can be relied on, as proven in this case...
Several posters here, including myself object to the use of Debka as a source of information making the basis of a post: it's solely a source of Zionist PROPAGANDA...
My belief in the supersonic anti-ship missiles and the lack of ability of the US naval forces to defend themselves is very easily demonstrated:
QUOTE:
"The Sizzler is a very low-flying, fast missile, said retired Rear Admiral Eric McVadon, a former U.S. naval attache in Beijing. ``It won't be visible until it's quite close. By the time you detect it to the time it hits you is very short.
``The Navy recognized this was a major issue, and over the years, I had continued promises they were going to fully fund development and production of missiles that could replicate the Sizzler to help develop a defense against it, Christie said. ``They haven't.
McQueary, head of the Pentagon's testing office, raised his concerns about the absence of Navy test plans for the missile in a Sept. 8, 2006, memo to Ken Krieg, undersecretary of defense for acquisition. He also voiced concerns to Deputy Secretary England.
In the memo, McQuery said that unless the Sizzler threat was addressed, his office wouldn't approve test plans necessary for production to begin on several other projects, including Northrop Grumman Corp.'s new $35.8 billion CVN-21 aircraft-carrier project; the $36.5 billion DDG-1000 destroyer project being developed by Northrop and General Dynamics Corp.; and two Raytheon Corp. projects, the $6 billion Standard Missile-6 and $1.1 billion Ship Self Defense System."
ht tp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a5LkaU0wj714
Any other questions?...
In a nutshell, by the time the US Navy has duplicated the Mach 2.8 Sizzler and developed suitable countermeasures (5 to 10 years project), Russia will have built and sold the next generation of Mach 8 anti-ship missiles where response time will only be a few seconds from detection time...
QUOTE:
"BAPL is contemplating a hypersonic mach 8 version of the missile, named the Brahmos 2. Brahmos 2 will be the first hypersonic cruise missile and is expected to be ready by 2012-13"
In other word, carriers and large expensive ships are like DINOSAUR about to become extinct, thanks to asymmetric warfare, an area where Iran is most expert...
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by Random on 22.05.2010 [13:31 ]
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blah blah blah, yadi yadi yada, Iran be very afraid.... Do not these ziobastards get tired of these empty threats?
About the Navy fleets, I am sure they all will be sitting on the bottom of Persian gulf within 20 minutes of attack
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by djandjolik on 22.05.2010 [15:02 ]
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that's the precise sentense.
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