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Britain, Germany, UAE Airports “Refuse Fuel to Iran Jets”
By: atheo on: 05.07.2010 [18:17 ] (2184 reads)
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05/07/2010 Airports in Britain, Germany and the United Arab Emirates have refused to offer fuel to Iranian passenger jets after unilateral sanctions imposed by Washington, ISNA news agency said on Monday.
IRNA, the official state news agency, said in a separate report that Kuwaiti airports have also declined to offer fuel to Iranian passenger planes. "Since last week, after the passing of the unilateral law by America and the sanctions against Iran, airports in England, Germany, the UAE have refused to give fuel to Iranian planes," ISNA quoted Mehdi Aliyari, secretary of Iranian Airlines Union, as saying.
The measures, on top of new United Nations and European sanctions, aim to choke off Iran's access to imports of refined petroleum products like gasoline and jet fuel and curb its access to the international banking system.
http://www.almanar.com.lb/newsSite/NewsDetails.aspx?id=145031&language=en
by gmmonko on 05.07.2010 [21:53 ]
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...enjoy the part in the coming genocide.
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by gmmonko on 05.07.2010 [22:47 ]
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...change the Logo to Turkish Airlines and fly home.
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by Iron_Clay on 05.07.2010 [23:30 ]
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Same thing happened to Japan with the US stopping fuel, forcing the Japs to attack the US fleet in Pearl Harbour which was the source of the stoppage.
These attacks on Iran are designed to force Iran to make counter attacks and thus make the war look like Iran aggression.
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by CANUKISTAN_VIEW on 06.07.2010 [03:11 ]
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AS THE MONETARY AND FINANCIAL CRISIS ARE FAR FROM OVER. The sucker rally is now over and we go now to the next major leg down.
HARPER IN THE LAST G8 MEETING ADMITTED CANDIDLY THAT THE FEAR IS FOR A CATACLYSM AND HE IS DAM RIGHT ON THIS ONE
THE EMPIRES AND USA KEEP SPENDING THE MONEY THEY DO NOT HAVE AND THIS MEANS THE FRAUD, STEALING, PILLAGE, GENOCIDE, IS ON
They are loosing their asses in Iraq and Afghanistan - They are bleeding financially - Their citizens STILL ARE NOT PAYING A PENNY AS LONG AS RUSSIA CHINA, BRAZIL, INDIA AND OTHER TRAITORS KEEP BUYING US DOLLARS.
IF THESE TRAITORS EVER CHANGE THEIR MIND THEY WILL BE BUSTED AND EUROPEANS AND USAns WILL START PAYING TAXES LIKE NEVER BEFORE.
IF YOU CAN BUY SILVER COINS AND SILVERWARE - GOLD/SILVER RATIO WAS 16 FOR OVER 500 YEARS AND IS WRITTEN IN B&W IN THE USA CONSTITUTION. If you believe the price of gold is about right then silver should be today about $75/ounce - Today price is $17.66.
To get an idea of gold price upswing, think about this line. The highest silver price was achieved in the 1400s and was around $800/ounce. Using the historical gold/silver ratio you get $12,000/ounce. YOU MAY AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THE FUTURE PRICE BUT MAN, YOU CANNOT CHANGE 500 YEARS OF HISTORY.
THIS OBSCENE ECONOMIC UNBALANCES IS WHAT IS TRIGGERING THE CRISIS. Mexico and Bolivia MUST STOP PRODUCING SILVER OR TAX IT 500%.
WHEN THE THIRD WORLD GOES UP FOR BETTER PRICES ON THEIR COMMODITIES THE IMPERIAL EUROPE AND USA GOES INTO ECONOMIC CRISIS BECAUSE MONEY GOES IN OPPOSITE DIRECTION - FROM CONSUMER TO PRODUCERS - AS A RESULT EACH TIME WE HAVE A SECULAR MARKET FOR THE COMMODITIES INEVITABLY THE EMPIRES GO TO WORLD WARS TO AVOID GOING BELLY UP. THIS TIME IS NO DIFFERENT.
IT IS FOR THIS REASON THAT WAY BACK IN 2001, I STARTED POSTING HERE ABOUT THE COMING CRISIS. I knew then the beginning of this major secular market.
NOW THE CRISIS IS HERE AND THE QUESTION IS: DID WE GET THROUGH THE WORST? AND THE ANSWER IS NOOOOOOOOOOO
THE EURO AND THE US DOLLAR WILL START LOOSING AAA RISK RATING BY THE END OF THIS YEAR - OCTOBER 2010 OR EARLY SPRING 2011.
THIS PROCESS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL 2015 OR 2016 WHEN SOVEREIGN BOND FROM USA AND EUROPE WILL BE RATED AS "C" OR JUNK BOND. Historically this process takes approximately 60 months.
YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME? GIVE A CALL TO WARREN BUFFET AND THEN TO THE US TREASURE AND ASK THEM WHO PAY HIGHER INTEREST ON THEIR BONDS? The answer is the USA government because TODAY AND TOMORROW is a HIGHER RISK INVESTMENT. Got it?
CHEERS FROM CANADA - PEACE PEACE
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by djandjolik on 06.07.2010 [03:37 ]
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and the more likely since there is no other way Iran would probably ram up its fuel cetrifuges to 95% for country security safety reason as a retaliation and built in refinery by their own from blue print (buy components of refinery from Turkey componies) and built piece by pieces or buy dismantled refinery from elsewhere or buy gasoline from Turkey by joint-financing eith Turkey oil company for a new refineries inexchange for stable supply of Iranian crude to Turkey.
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by djandjolik on 06.07.2010 [03:40 ]
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which is no violation of sanction since there is no money/banking exchange electronically and hence no UN violation by Turkey
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by Zoraida on 06.07.2010 [05:27 ]
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FT says BP stops supplying fuel to Iranian aircraft
Mon Jul 5, 2010 5:29pm EDT
LONDON July 5 (Reuters) - The Financial Times said oil major BP (BP.L) had stopped refuelling Iranian aircraft in response to far-reaching U.S sanctions to isolate Tehran economically.
The new U.S. sanctions penalize companies supplying Iran with gasoline, but U.S officials have not made clear whether they believe the new law bars firms from refuelling Iranian airliners.
A spokesman for BP declined to comment on the Financial Times report, published on Monday on its website, or on individual contracts with airlines.
"We fully comply with any international sanctions imposed in countries where we operate. We also make sure that out JV partners are aware of sanctions as well," A BP spokesman said in a statement.
The Financial Times gave no source for its report.
Iran complained on Monday that its planes had been denied fuel in Germany, Britain and the United Arab Emirates. ID:nLDE66418N
Sources in the Middle East and Europe said that if flights were indeed denied fuel, it would be a decision by private firms attempting to comply with a new U.S. sanctions law, rather than any ban imposed by the countries where the planes landed. Governments said they were not aware of any ban on fueling. (Reporting by Caroline Copley; Editing by Ralph Boulton)
ht tp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE6641XP20100705
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by gmmonko on 06.07.2010 [05:47 ]
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...Iran has natural gas and natural gas can be used in cars with combustion chamber engines! You need a simple kit plus a different tank.
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by sealion on 06.07.2010 [07:26 ]
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@Canuk about Silver and "ask Buffet"...
So far, no luck in talking with Buffet...
I'm a big time Gold Bug and wrote a detailed study in December 2007 showing that it would soon reach $2,975.00. After the mad rush to print money in all countries around the world in a race to the bottom, this target is now $5,000.00+...
A few hundred years ago, there was hardly any industrial use for Silver and, like Gold, it was viewed as the safest store of value...
However, today Silver has become an industrial metal that is being consumed, while 95% of all Gold ever mined is still in existence as the purest form of money or currency...
As the world is about to plunge in a REAL DEPRESSION that will last at least 5 years, prices of most commodities, including Silver will go down...
The other drawback of Silver is its bulk and high storage cost, compared to Gold: that's why I'd rather stick to Gold and its derivatives, like DGP...
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by Zoraida on 06.07.2010 [07:40 ]
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Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:15:34 GMT
An Iraninan Airbus passenger plane at a German airport.
Germany has dismissed reports that the country's airports have refused to refuel Iranian passenger planes in the wake of a fourth round of UN Security Council sanctions against Tehran.
"Providing fuel to the Iranian passenger airliners at Germany's airports is not considered as prohibited under United Nation's statutory conventions as well as European Union's sanction regulations," DPA news agency quoted a spokesperson for the Federal Ministry of Transportation on Monday.
On June 9, the UN Security Council imposed fresh sanctions against Iran over its peaceful nuclear program followed by unilateral measures by the European Union and later by the United States.
Iran, a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, has dismissed the sanctions as lacking legal basis, arguing that its nuclear activities are under the full supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
ht tp://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=133579§ionid=351020101
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by Iron_Clay on 06.07.2010 [08:13 ]
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Obama’s New Iran Sanctions: An Act of War
When the UN refused to agree to the severe sanctions that the U.S. wanted, Obama responded with typical Bush flair and went solo. The new U.S. sanctions against Iran — signed into law by Obama on July 1st — are an unmistakable act of war.
If fully enforced, Iran’s economy will be potentially destroyed. The New York Times outlines the central parts of the sanctions:
“The law signed by Mr. Obama imposes penalties on foreign entities that sell refined petroleum to Iran or assist Iran with its domestic refining capacity. It also requires that American and foreign businesses that seek contracts with the United States government certify that they do not engage in prohibited business with Iran.” (July 1, 2010).
Iran must import the majority of its oil from foreign corporations and nations, since it does not have the technology needed to refine the fuel that it pumps from its soil. By cutting this refined oil off, the U.S. will be causing massive, irreparable damage to the Iranian economy — equaling an act of war.
In fact, war against Japan in WWII was sparked by very similar circumstances. Franklin Delano Roosevelt spearheaded a series of sanctions against Japan, which included the Export Control Act, giving the President the power to prohibit the export of a variety of materials to Japan, including oil. This gave Roosevelt the legal stance he needed to implement an oil embargo, an obvious act of war. Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor simply brought the war out of the economic realm into the military sphere.
Iran is facing the exact same situation. Whereas the Obama Administration calmly portrays economic sanctions as “peaceful” solutions to political problems, they are anything but. The strategy here is to economically attack Iran until it responds militarily, giving the U.S. a fake moral high ground to “defend” itself, since the other side supposedly attacked first.
But the U.S. is provoking militarily too. According to the New York Times: “The Obama administration is accelerating the deployment of new defenses against possible Iranian missile attacks in the Persian Gulf, placing special ships war ships off the Iranian coast and antimissile systems in at least four surrounding Arab countries, according to administration and military officials.” (January 30, 2010).
The same article mentions that U.S. General Petraeus admitted that, “… the United States was now keeping Aegis cruisers on patrol in the Persian Gulf Iran’s border at all times. Those cruisers are equipped with advanced radar and antimissile systems designed to intercept medium-range missiles.” Iran, as well as the whole world, knows full well that “antimissile systems” are perfectly capable of going on the offensive — their real purpose.
Iran is completely surrounded by countries occupied by the U.S. military, whether it be the mass occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan, or the U.S. puppet states that house U.S. military bases in Arab nations (not to mention Zionist Israel, a U.S. cohort in its war aims against Iran). Contrary to the statements of President Obama, Iran is already well contained militarily.
It remains to be seen how closely U.S. allies will follow the new oil sanctions; they will be under tremendous pressure to do so. The European Union has already signaled that it will follow Obama’s lead.
Ultimately, the march to war begun by Bush is picking up momentum under Obama. Congressional Democrats and Republicans gave the President their overwhelming support in passing these sanctions, proving that the two party system agrees to the necessity of more war.
Uniting the U.S. anti-war movement is crucial if current and future wars are to be stopped. A step in this direction will take place at the National Peace Conference, in Albany, New York, July 23-25.
( ht tp://nationalpeaceconference.org/Home_Page.html ).
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by Iron_Clay on 06.07.2010 [08:16 ]
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I have been posting comments such as are in the text below on the net today and now someone else has come to exactly the same conclusion.
Quote from above:
In fact, war against Japan in WWII was sparked by very similar circumstances. Franklin Delano Roosevelt spearheaded a series of sanctions against Japan, which included the Export Control Act, giving the President the power to prohibit the export of a variety of materials to Japan, including oil. This gave Roosevelt the legal stance
he needed to implement an oil embargo, an obvious act of war. Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor simply brought the war out of the economic realm into the military sphere.
The Jap’s attack on Pearl Harbor simply would not have happened if the American fleet blocking Japan's oil wasn't based there.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his military had full knowledge of the Jap's heading to attack Pearl Harbor and did nothing to stop or warn of the attack ...WHY???
Why is simple ... Roosevelt wanted to provide his military the backing off the braindead American people to go to war and more than that ... TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS to show the rest of the world what they were capable of.
Those who know me and have read my rants over the years will know that I have said that I believe the US will allow an Israeli aircraft to bury a US carrier somewhere near Iran and that they will accuse Iran of that attack.
Iran has to be aware that these fuel blockades are to provoke such an attack and Iran has to have the brains not to do it ... therefore when you see this happen remember what I have said.
There will be likely less than 24 hours between the sinking of the US carrier and a full on nuclear war in the middle east.
Already there are no less than 3 carrier groups (which is something like 13 war ships each) close to Iran.
Already there are at least 2 Israeli subs hiding close as well.
Already there is at least 1 Israeli war ship with one of these carrier groups.
Already there is a massive buildup of Israeli aircraft sitting in Saudi waiting to strike.
If you can ignore all these good on you ... go back to sleep.
You should be ready to move within hours to do a final stock-up off goods.
You should have your money out of the banks by now.
Ammo and fuels are the first things you should be stocking up on when this war begins.
Neal
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by Iron_Clay on 06.07.2010 [08:22 ]
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I appreciate your comments.
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by LittleHelper on 06.07.2010 [10:13 ]
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Actually, that IRNA report seems to be wrong.
But it seems to be true, that BP doesn't serve Iranian airliners
with fuel anymore.
I can only guess, why BP is doing this. Maybe due to the oil spill in
the Gulf of Mexico they are in such a bad shape now in respect
to their public relations, that they're catching every straw to regain
a favorable public image.
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by makarov on 06.07.2010 [14:28 ]
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Their citizens STILL ARE NOT PAYING A PENNY AS LONG AS RUSSIA CHINA, BRAZIL, INDIA AND OTHER TRAITORS KEEP BUYING US DOLLARS
The main problem is here. But how to kick out traitors from the tops of Central banks and Ministeries of Finance?
Any ideas?
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by sealion on 06.07.2010 [15:53 ]
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@IC: there are no 3 carriers around Iran: it's the BS created by the likes of Debka and that you should NOT SPREAD around, since you well know where to find the TRUTH by now...
Would you believe: JUST ONE SINGLE CARRIER GROUP?
There is the usual Amphibious Assault (Expeditionary) Group led by the LHA Nassau and one rotation carrier (Truman) replacing another (Eisenhower) that has finished its 6 months tour of duty and is already in Turkey on its way back to the US...
ht tp://www.navy.mil/navydata/navy_legacy_hr.asp?id=146
This is NORMAL and unless there are at least 4 Carrier and 6 Expeditionary Groups in the general vicinity, NO ATTACK will take place on Iran...
The economic blockade is far more insidious and, depending how it is implemented may in future amount to an Act of War...
However, it's NOT a physical blockade and other countries are free to trade with Iran - albeit at some economic cost to them - so the issue is still in a grey area...
Iran, however is totally justified in taking whatever counter-measures it sees fit against the countries involved - which are obviously under IsraHell control - starting with withdrawing from the NPT, as soon as its nuclear power station is in operation...
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by RowanBerkeley on 06.07.2010 [15:56 ]
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There have been more stories confirming what the FT says Zoraida on 06.07.2010 05:27 . BP thinks this will get it some favouritism from the white house and the US congress over the gulf catastrophe.
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by Syrian on 06.07.2010 [22:04 ]
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I've failed to get people to realise what was going on, maybe because I was too long winded? So I just thought of a very easy way to understand what is going on.
The psy-ops of an attack on Iran, are the actions of a street robber, trying to get your attention with quick hand motions/bumping into you. The theft are the sanctions that result from it as your eyes are always in the wrong direction.
@makarov
The best way is electoral reforms, make sure there is no corruption going on, organise and start taking more political action. Kick out all NGOs from the country and identify the zionists controlling you.
Russians are smart, good-looking people, I have confidence that some time in the future you will no longer tolerate the situation the bastards have placed you in. Just make sure you don't get fooled by another Lenin bastard who the bankers controlled to rape your lands and people.
Regarding the top news in question, RowanBerkeley has correctly identified the reason for this jet fuel ban. BP has to give something to get some leniency in return. They're going to need it.
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by Iron_Clay on 06.07.2010 [22:53 ]
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ww w.navy.mil.
Can you tell me the last time am American source told the truth?
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by sealion on 07.07.2010 [08:31 ]
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@IC: I know for sure Carrier Eisenhower is in Turkey, instead of near Iran, because unlike many posters here, I double and triple check my sources...
ht tp://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=60991
I have also watched this Navy Status Website on a daily basis for many years and it's always been spot on...
Unlike others here, I don't get and post "NEWS" from Zionists sources, simply because I know for CERTAIN that they are DISINFORMATION...
I'd rather seek and posts FACTS...
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by Syrian on 07.07.2010 [11:08 ]
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You're an information warrior, keep up the great work. Debka et al. are just there to confuse everyone. The only use I have for them is for comedy.
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by Iron_Clay on 07.07.2010 [11:14 ]
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Don't suppose you could send a photo of you standing on the deck of Eisenhower could you Turkey ...???
That would make it really convincing.
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by makarov on 07.07.2010 [17:56 ]
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your view of Lenin is good for imperialists only. THEY want us to have such a view. But the truth is that without Lenin there won't be Stalin, USSR, socialist system, end of colonialism and racism and rise of the new states. It would have been fascist, racist, colonial imperialism type of 19-th century.
Of course it is not so important as the problem we discuss here. I agree with your idea, but it will take 4-8 years to change Head of the Central bank according to legal procedures. Moreover, we need to control BOTH president and Duma (lower part of the Parliament), the system is rather thought through!
But leave alone Russia, at least it is the third (yes, yes!) zionist Citadel after US and israhell. Why China and India those are not at all zionist play Usan game? Perhaps we could reach some people in this countries?
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by Syrian on 08.07.2010 [02:48 ]
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I realise my view of Lenin et al. creates some problems, but I'm just putting some facts together. The truth is, the bankers (in Russia's case, the infamous Warburg dynasty) don't care which system is in place as long as they have control of it. They destroyed the USSR because they wanted consolidation of their globalisation system. It's funny, a few years before the Russian revolution, they had silently taken over the USA as well, Russia's old allie.
I have travelled across China and I can tell you these people are not going to be taken over. They are far too "different", in both their train of thought and their physical appearance. Though many of the relevent families are "mixing" in, it'll take far too long and the Chinese are extremely "racist". A slight hint of foreign blood and they will not treat them the same way as usual. They had already learnt their lesson from the Qing dynasty.
Indians at the moment are doing their own thing, they are extremely aligned with the israHellis/USAns, but they're still independent. I haven't studied it in detail.
By the way, a long time ago an old Freemason told me that "Russia in our pocket", but I didn't believe him. Anyway, I think Russians need to concentrate on securing their information channels. Russia has a relatively small population and they're not complete imbeciles like the USA. Some form of organisation is possible, even if it would many years.
The most critical problem to solve is that of agriculture. This is the dagger in the pillow that the bastards have left for Russia. They will force you to face starvation if you don't give them what they want. It is no wonder then that Medvedev was in charge of it, to make sure Russia was going to remain weak in this department.
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by Bulov on 08.07.2010 [03:40 ]
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no doubts about that... "Yes we can" the Marvelous Mongrel said
:)
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by Syrian on 08.07.2010 [04:10 ]
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What amuses me the most are the stupid people in the middle east who were celebrating because his middle name was Houssein. Obongo is a better name for him.
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by cosmo on 08.07.2010 [07:44 ]
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Russia needs a total refurbishment of its rulers.
This cannnot be achieved by peaceful means only, for the simple reason is that when those ruling notice the coming changes they have the means to buy support by different means, especially with their control of the massmedia and people do sell their services because of the degenrated human nature.
A proper civil none obedience program in strategic vital operations of the society combined with a military action is the only way out.
Drunkared yeltsin did it with the help of the ziowest so it can be done again, otherwise, we will see a Russia slaughtered and sold piece by piece by the ruling chabad talmudist zionists who should be eliminted from all power positions in Russia.
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by makarov on 08.07.2010 [10:29 ]
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thank you for understanding, friends. We could discuss details for long time but it will lead away from important substance (I know it because it happens for years here).
Important substance that always fells out from discussion is that almost all "oligarchic" property in RF is ILLEGAL! The corresponfing "deals" were investigated by special control department 'Schyotnaya palata' and proved to be total fiction. First Chubais and Koch who were on the top of governement in 1995 under Yeltsin "relocated" "free" state money on the assets of several local banks. Then they said "the state doesn't have enough money, we must borrow from our banks", and "borrowed" exactly the same amount as they allocated! But who will give money to such bastards as Chubais and Koch without guarantees?! So they guaranteed the credit with great amounts of property that dwarved the credit thousands times. Then they didn't returned credit to oligarchs and they became the owners of this property! This deal is pure fiction!
It was discribed in several books in Russian by Yu.Yu.Boldyrev "O bochkah meda i lozhkah degtya" and B.I.Mironov "Chubais - vrag naroda". These brave men many times appealed to General Prosecution but in wane. Mironov even asked Gen. pros. to prosecute him for lie if there is a single fact that is not correct. They didn't.
But instead Chubais organized his fake assassination and tried to prosecute Mironov's son for it but lost in court for three times!
I tell this to show that ruling regime in Russia has its' "locus minoris resistentia"! The main problem is as always information blockade.
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by Iron_Clay on 08.07.2010 [23:12 ]
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your beliefs that people can change anything by political means.
In today's world that is number one impossible and number 2 dangerous for their own lives and their families.
What ever gets done has to be all "underground".
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by Syrian on 09.07.2010 [02:29 ]
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Is when people attribute a position to me which I've never stated. I would appreciate it that you'd never do it again.
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by djandjolik on 09.07.2010 [07:28 ]
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may need nuclear devices for prevention "run away" oil and gas wells.
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by djandjolik on 09.07.2010 [07:36 ]
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Iran should have possesed and produced "nuclear implosion device for prevention of runaway oil and gas wells" to be market to oil and gas industries in the ME.
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by Iron_Clay on 09.07.2010 [09:01 ]
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Having no intention of offending you I'd ask if you wrote the below and if your words meant that you think people can change things by political means.
I'm hoping I'm wrong please help me here.
by Syrian on 06.07.2010
@makarov
The best way is electoral reforms, make sure there is no corruption going on, organise and start taking more political action. Kick out all NGOs from the country and identify the zionists controlling you.
The best way is electoral reforms
Can you inform me as to how any election under the UN secret ballot system can take the form of a reform?
make sure there is no corruption going on
As the UN secret ballot system is a fraud and corrupt from the outset, what do you mean by this?
AND THE BEST MOVE YOU HAVE STATED IS Kick out all NGOs from the country
The UN and the government pays the NGO's to write legislation to be passed by government and the UN so getting the NGO's out is a good move.
But they must be exorcised from the entire planet.
I'm not quite sure (after reading your reply) as to what you meant by these comments but I took them as above.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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by Syrian on 09.07.2010 [12:13 ]
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I'll be glad to say you've taken them wrongly, I actually had a different meaning in mind, but I can completely understand how you can misinterpret them so I'm not offended. I was just upset that you'd think I was so silly in thinking that any change can happen purely through politics.
>The best way is electoral reforms
>Can you inform me as to how any election under the UN secret ballot system can take the form of a reform?
Secret ballot is the way the bastards fake elections. There are many digital signature techniques which are anonymous, but verifiable down to the last vote except for ballot stuffing.
Democracy doesn't work but as long as people are willing to live by it, they should at least reform the way the electoral system works. As I said this can't be done through politics, it needs to be through violent means. (I didn't want to spell it out, but there you have it)
>As the UN secret ballot system is a fraud and corrupt from the outset, what do you mean by this?
I think I answered this above.
>But they must be exorcised from the entire planet.
The NGOs need to be shut down, alongside the corporate lobby groups. They need to be completely ban and punishible by life imprisonment if neccessary.
Examples need to be made.
Blood needs to be shed.
It's the ugly truth, but there you have it.
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by DarkStar on 09.07.2010 [13:30 ]
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But not yours, is it?
And you should know that violent revolutions have all been masterminded by the judeo-satanic masters for their own profit and the profit of their brethrens...
The more of that blood is shed, the more they reap profits and power, as goes with the wars they also engineer.
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by Syrian on 09.07.2010 [17:37 ]
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Very funny and basic. Read this one carefully:
>Anyway, I think Russians need to concentrate on securing their information channels. Russia has a relatively small population and they're not complete imbeciles like the USA. Some form of organisation is possible, even if it would many years.
And this one:
>The most critical problem to solve is that of agriculture. This is the dagger in the pillow that the bastards have left for Russia. They will force you to face starvation if you don't give them what they want.
I've highlighted the important parts. — Once you have put them together, realise what HUGE planning and challenges to overcome will be involved. An engineered 1917-style revolution is not what is required, no the engineered 1933 german-nazi movement. Of course I know who benefited from them along with every war of the last century and this one. Huge amount of planning, information hierarchies and personal sacrifices need to be made for the "greater good". Anticipation of the moves the bastards will make is required but I think you will agree with me, the moves will be very obvious. Any level of success will bring about impositions of sanctions, starvation, isolation and other forms of brutality-through-a-pen-stroke.
The less blood shed, the better of course, I agree ... but you cannot move these bastards without it, some is ABSOLUTELY required at some level. Think about it, your mantra "The more of that blood is shed, the more they reap profits and power", is bullshit, especially if it is THEIR BLOOD THAT IS SHED. What a contradiction!
Maybe you will understand me, when you consider what is happening in Lebanon. During the war a Lebanese guy found his brother on his computer, giving information to the mossad. Do you know what he did? He brought a pistol to his brother's head and fired 3 rounds. Without saying a word. Whoever is not willing to go this far, will seldom taste victory. It is always the enemy within the poses the biggest danger.
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by CANUKISTAN_VIEW on 09.07.2010 [23:21 ]
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@SEALION: Good to see you posting. The price of gold in US dollar and euros may go parabolic as the fiat money printed becomes bigger and bigger because the war is getting more expensive and far beyond their wildest nightmare. Officially they expected to cost $54 billion and the guy who did the study at the pentagon saying it will cost $150 billion was fired. Well today is over $1 TRILLION and counting...This is why gold will reach 4 digits.
The case for silver: When the crusaders got their hands in the POTOSI- Bolivia silver mountain in the 1500s, the silver price came down; then again in the 1800s with the Nevada deposits discovery. And finally when the Anglo-Saxon (USA-UK) collapsed the bimetallic standard in 1873 - dropping the silver and the gold/silver ratio (1:16). This killed the money of the poor (silver coin) and favoured the money of the rich (gold coin). Because SILVER is widely used in the industry, this precious metal IS GETTING DEPLETED very fast and for over 100 years no new major discovery has been found. Potosi Mountain is at the point of collapse given the 500 years of tunnel excavations at all levels and unregulated. SO IT IS JUST QUESTION OF TIMES WHEN SILVER WILL MOVE HIGHER. You mentioned depression of the west meaning less demand. The fact of the matter is that the OECD industrial output has been declining since 2007 and will continue to do so (USA industrial capacity is declining since the 1970s). But the BRIC + South Africa are the new industrial powers; therefore the G7 today are 30% less relevant than they used to be few years ago. IT IS THE IMPERIAL EUROPE AND THEIR WATCH DOG - THE USA - THAT ARE BROKE, CANNOT EVEN SERVE THE DEBT AT 1% - USA Real Fed Fund Rate is at -2.67% - meaning inflation is higher than interest rate - and still the Recession that started 3Q07 is still on after 33 months - THIS IS WHY USA-IMPERIAL EUROPE ARE IN DEEP DEPRESSION!!!!!!!! They both D DESPERATELY NEED A MAJOR WW III TO AVOID LOSING THE CENTER OF GRAVITY FOR MONARCHIES, BANKING, RELIGION AND MILITARY POWER.
@SYRIAN: Regarding LENIN and the Marxist ideology. Perhaps by now you may know that Karl Mark was cousin of the owners of Philips Electronic Consortium and also a close relative of Nathan Rothschild. This is why Herr Karl Marx NEVER ATTACKED THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS, THE PEOPLE WHO CREATES THE MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR. However he was virulent against le petit burgess and the industrial plebeian BECAUSE THIS PEOPLE BUSTED THE MONARCHIES AND THE MONEY CHANGERS BUSINESS as they created the industrial revolution, the middle class, their own political power with republics around the world, they financed their own prosperity with their own HONEST MONEY with production and services that form part of the real economy. Today, the crisis again was created BY THE BANKER CARTEL DEFENDED BY HERR MARK - This crisis was not created in the real economy OR THE INDUSTRIAL AND PETIT BURGESS but by the empires and international cartel. If you read the Manifesto Marx mention bankers only once? And what he said? Find out...
Lincoln was killed for two reasons: (1) created money through the US TREASURE DEPT funded by the people and for the people, and (2) helped the republicans Mexicans fighting the Sacred Roman Empire and the impostor Maximiliano of Habsburg as emperor of Mexico.
The Russian tsar was killed for three reasons: (1) Supported Lincoln with two nay fleet for over a year in NY and San Francisco, (2) Like Lincoln he also opposed to a central Bank, and (3) the Vatican hates and is afraid of the Orthodox church and a powerful Russian empire or powerful Russian republic. But they loved and financed a communist Russia
So when Lenin took over with 250 thugs from NY commanded by Trotsky HE CREATED THE CENTRAL BANK OF RUSSIA AND WAS CONTROLLED BY ROTHSCHILD-ROCKEFELLER-MORGAN-WARBURG and another 7 bankers. So from day one the Bolshevik revolution WAS FINANCED BY THE BANKERS CARTEL, THEY CONTROLLED THEIR RESOURCES, and THEIR MILITARY AND THEIR KGB. They opposed Kerensky because he was attempting to create a republican government similar to the USA.
Napoleon was a mason Illuminatis from Bavarian (jesuits-Rothschild) NOT THE FREE MASON. For this reson Napoleon went to Russia to get the orthodox churh out of power and the tsar; however he lost. The the tsar went back to France with his army right into Paris - and the French Revolution of the Illuminatis of Bavaria was busted. After that the tsar got the Vatican agaisnt him, the Illuminatis from Bavaria, the international banker cartel and the anaquist who were all financed by the money changers khazars. This is why the soviet revolution was run by the khazars jews, financed by the hazars jews and their ideology was alsa created by the khazars jews. Read Winston Churchil article posted in London.
WHAT TO DO? There are many thing people can do and should do to screw the BANKERS CARTEL because these are the main oppressors:
1. Bankers do not like to print papers; it is expensive: So DO NOT USE CHEQUES, CREDIT CARDS, Bank deposits, etc. - Get used to PAY AND GET PAID IN CASH.
2. Bankers are losing money with minting 5 cent nickel: COLLECT COINS NOT FOR NUMISMATIC PURPOSE BUT FOR INTRINSIC VALUE. It the euro or the dollar gets busted, all paper money goes down to zero. However, all coins RETAINS THE INTRINSIC MELTING VALUE.
3. Bankers hate gold and silver when they are in other hands: BUY GOLD AND SILVER, BULLIONS, COINS, JEWELLERY, ART – if their price goes up 200% YOU DO NOT PAY TAXES. However, if your investment makes 200% gain then you have to pay taxes (capital gains) - but still you can invest in mining companies THAT ARE UNHEDGED!
4. Bankers hate barter as paper money is not used: DO AS MUCH AS YOU CAN BARTER - food for services, or services for products etc. So you don't pay sales tax!
5. Bankers hate countries that use their currencies in foreign market: FORCE YOUR POLITICIANS TO BUY AND SELL IN THE NATIONAL CURRENCY OR SOME REGIONAL CURRENCIES.
6. USA and the empires NEED TO BORROW "HONEST MONEY" FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD so they can MIX IT WITH FIAT OR DISHONEST MONEY - THIS IS MONEY LAUNDERING - like mixing Monopoly paper money with real money. ENSURE POLITICIANS DO NOT BUY USA OR IMPERIAL DEBTS - it is criminal as they finance wars.
7. Andrew Jackson back in 1830s said "ALL FEDERAL LAND SOLD MUST BE PAID IN GOLD"; SO PEOPLE STARTED CONVERTING PAPERS INTO GOLD AND SOON ALL BANKERS THAT PRINTED MONEY BEYOND THEIR LIMITS WENT bankrupt. In this way Jackson cleaned the banking system and only the crooks bankers went belly up.
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by Iron_Clay on 09.07.2010 [23:51 ]
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We can agree in the problem.
The remedy is the only problem we have.
Political, and public demonstrating in todays "terrorist ridden" world with all their spy satellites, cameras and taxi drivers are out of the question.
In this CANUKISTAN_VIEW is correct above where he says to deal only in cash, gold or goods.
Every time you hit a keyboard you let them know what you're doing so messages like this one should be on had written paper and destroyed by the receiver.
However there's a really good book I found and posted up on my website on how some believe the war can be carried out with much less danger.
Download it from here:
ht tp://www.iron-clay.com/pdf/unintended-consequences.pdf
You'll find it a really good read ... not a true story but some would think it a great idea.
AND HEY it;s the only good thing to come out of America so it has to be worth the read.
Neal
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by informatron- on 10.07.2010 [02:47 ]
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Nice site. Full of THC materials, nice alternatives to IED's.
May I recommend MEBO (Moisture Exposed Burn Ointment). This Chinese herbal product cured my severe second degree burns in ten days without scares nor antibiotics. It is based on Sesame oil and bees wax plus Chinese herbs. Please explore the MEBO site. It is a good place for terminally ill cancer patients and those of us who wish to live for 300 years. It truly regenerative Chinese medicine.
I vouch for MEBO, I was cured by MEBO.
informatron
h ttp://en.mebo.com/index.asp
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by informatron- on 10.07.2010 [02:56 ]
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i have no financial interest in MEBO.
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by Iron_Clay on 10.07.2010 [07:18 ]
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I'll look into that ...
My daughter runs the herbal side of the site.
I run the "other" side.
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by Iron_Clay on 10.07.2010 [08:15 ]
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can you meet me off line at iron_clay@xtra.co.nz about your "Moisture Exposed Burn Ointment" ... having problems finding out what's in it.
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by informatron- on 10.07.2010 [10:47 ]
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MEBO is also good for gunshot wounds.
This invention relates to a pharmaceutical composition mainly used for treating thermal injuries of warm blooded mammals and human. It is composed of 3 to 15% by weight of beeswax and 85 to 97% by weight of sesame oil extract of Huangqin, Huanglian, Huangbai, earthworm and poppy capsule.
Inventor: Rongxiang Xu (China)
h ttp://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5405608
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by Iron_Clay on 10.07.2010 [11:58 ]
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Hi there informatron ... thanks for telling me that ... but one of the things I really try hard as not getting are gun shot wounds.
I'm told the can hurt something bad ...
It's come close a few times but so far no ones scored a home run on me.
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