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Flood Gates Breaking - First "Mainstream" article on 9/11 questioning the official version
By: on: 09.08.2005 [10:45 ] (14972 reads)
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One of Britain’s biggest newspapers, the Mail, carried a 3-page article on 9/11. Not carried on the daily mail site.
Towers that fell ‘like a controlled demolition’. Planes that vanished then mysteriously reappeared, And crucial evidence that has been lost for ever. A new book raises bizarre yet deeply unsettling questions about the world’s worst terror atrocity…..
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by stopwar on 09.08.2005 [11:55 ]
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The Mail sometimes goes for stories that the mainstream press won't touch with a bargepole - like the spreading of BSE from cows to humans, for example.
Now they are going for 9/11... and, well, this is sensational! There must be more copies of The Mail sold on Saturday than daily sales of most newspapers - ands people do have time to actually READ on Saturday.
There'll have been plenty oif WTF reverberating around the country last Saturday, and even more on Sunday, as the news of Robin Cook's death came out. Cook would sure have seen this revelation as an opportunity.
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by stopwar on 09.08.2005 [12:03 ]
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for someone in the UK mainstream press to write an article about the Downing Street Memo - because this "little matter" was buried by the election first time around, when it should have been shouted from the rooftops.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 09.08.2005 [13:30 ]
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The truth is coming. Get that nice rope ready that Joe told us about. Hing the murdering black-ops bastards from the Gallows. Joe I hope you'll be watching alon side all the millions of people that have dies at the hands of these murderous filth pigs shit.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 09.08.2005 [13:32 ]
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My theory is that Atta was taken out in the Penn airport and replaced by a Mossad agent. That agent flew to Boston's Logan and then took off. He hijacked the plane and slammed it into the WTC buildings.
The reason I believe that is because there were photos of Atta at hotels, ATM machines, Penn airport, and a lot of other places, but none of him at Boston's Logan.
Also, no one saw him on the flight from Penn to Boston.
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by turlututu on 09.08.2005 [13:47 ]
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A month later after the 9-11 attacks, an Airbus flight crashed misteriously on New York neighboroud, but we have never heard of any investigation results, although some strange stories were also said about the accident. The engines were recovered miles away from the main impact, but I never heard any indication about technical problems from the black boxes, I cannot remember that the boxes were actually read!!! Although what happened in Toronto last Week, the black boxes have already been sent for analysis... Can anybody tell me what happened then?
My second question is an anti conspiracy thought. If CIA and FBI can mount a big hoax for the 9-11, cannot they manage to mount a little small story about WMD in Irak, just a few of them to give Bush and Blair the good reasons they needed to show the world they were right to attack... Surely, it should not have been that difficult to find some russian made missiles or any chinese or french chemical equipments to fighten the whole world about this luny dictator?
What are your opinions on these?
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by stopwar on 09.08.2005 [13:57 ]
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I've always thought that both were flown by remote control, but wondered what the heck happened to the passengers on the scheduled flights. Anyway, we will probably get a little closer to the truth now...
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by stopwar on 09.08.2005 [14:01 ]
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I fully expected WMD to be planted. I believe there were two stories about attempts to plant them via Kuwait/the river separating Iran & Iraq - and both being foiled. Anyone know anything more about these?
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by concernedguest on 09.08.2005 [14:06 ]
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concentrate on the operative issue.
that the bush regime and its allies pulled and continue to pull off the most spectacular coup de etat in history
the tact complicity (as from the sllence) of russia and china
the universal "silence" -of the "mainstream" media (russian, chinese as well as anglo/american, india )
mechanisms of control
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by concernedguest on 09.08.2005 [14:13 ]
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are several thousand of them all sheeple
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by stopwar on 09.08.2005 [14:13 ]
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Maybe even China & Russia never believed they'd do such a thing. In 1933, who'd have believed the National Socialists would have deliberately burned the Reichstag, for the purpose of blaming and scapegoating the Communists?
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering, member of the Nazi party, at the Nuremberg trials
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by concernedguest on 09.08.2005 [14:23 ]
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remember the russian millitary intel reports on this site - they are not fools and in any case, it is not a question of belief inas much as elementary commonsense physics
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by stopwar on 09.08.2005 [14:43 ]
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I'm not saying they are fools. Maybe they did have their suspicions. If I did I'd have thought military intel certainly would have. But even if the intel of these countries did have evidence, what could they do about it?
Bush & Blair had the US and UK media nicely tied down by 11th September 2001. Remember how that CNN report of "cheering Arabs" raced around the world?
I still think that the most likely scenario is a "conspiracy within a conspiracy". That would really confuse anyone looking in from outside.
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by DTM on 09.08.2005 [14:50 ]
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"WASHINGTON, Aug. 8 - More than a year before the Sept. 11 attacks, a small, highly classified military intelligence unit identified Mohammed Atta and three other future hijackers as likely members of a cell of Al Qaeda operating in the United States, according to a former defense intelligence official and a Republican member of Congress.
In the summer of 2000, the military team, known as Able Danger, prepared a chart that included visa photographs of the four men and recommended to the military's Special Operations Command that the information be shared with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the congressman, Representative Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania, and the former intelligence official said Monday.
The recommendation was rejected and the information was not shared, they said, apparently at least in part because Mr. Atta, and the others were in the United States on valid entry visas. Under American law, United States citizens and green-card holders may not be singled out in intelligence-collection operations by the military or intelligence agencies. That protection does not extend to visa holders, but Mr. Weldon and the former intelligence official said it might have reinforced a sense of discomfort common before Sept. 11 about sharing intelligence information with a law enforcement agency.
A former spokesman for the Sept. 11 commission, Al Felzenberg, confirmed that members of its staff, including Philip Zelikow, the executive director, were told about the program on an overseas trip in October 2003 that included stops in Afghanistan and Pakistan. But Mr. Felzenberg said the briefers did not mention Mr. Atta's name.
The report produced by the commission last year does not mention the episode."
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by hellsbells on 09.08.2005 [15:07 ]
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A quick glance over the article shows Tony Rennell has covered some of the main points of the 9/11 controversy - WTC1&2, WTC7, NORAD, pentagon plane hoax, missing black boxes, Operation Northwoods - but omitted the Project for the New American Century.
The material is familiar with anyone who has watched the DVD's now available, such as Barry Zwicker's "The Great Conspiracy", Mike Ruppert's "Truth & Lies of 9/11", Alex Jones' "911 The Road to Tyranny", Eric Hufschmidt's "Painful Deceptions", GNN's "Aftermath - Unanswered Questions from 9/11", Jimmy Walters' "Confronting the Evidence", Michel Chossudovky's "Celcius 911", and several others.
There has been such a deafening silence from the mainstream media about the real 9/11 questions being asked on dozens of websites, books, videos, and occasional broadcasts such as those by David Ray Griffin.
The number of people who know about these questions is increasing. Sooner or later the mainstream media has to acknowledge these questions, or be consigned to utter irrelevance & oblivion.
The forthcoming book by Henshall & Morgan seems to have prised open the door, ever so slightly, in the British press. I think it may be the first UK book on the subject, after several best selling books from France, Germany and the USA. Hope it's a good read!
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by concernedguest on 09.08.2005 [15:08 ]
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nyt the same bunch of jokers that brought you iraq war. red herrings to take off the heat
MIHOP - physics - collapse leads to a different world
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by verve on 09.08.2005 [15:13 ]
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er, that was Nagasaki and Heroshima, typical fucking yanks like the Holohoaxers, me first, me first. Pricks. It was a few thousands fat complacient fucks, who wouldn't give a rats ass how many poor people they fucked over to get to the top of the towers. Besides, the towers were the false flag, the real attack, THE COUP, happened at the Pentagon.
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by m47vb44 on 09.08.2005 [15:41 ]
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the Israeli politican, on Sept. 11th or 12th??
I recall an interview on CNN that time.
Asked about the WTC desaster, his first words were somthing like "Oh, thats very good for us ...ahem...I think its a very sad day for the american and israeli people"....
But his eyes were lightened with pleasure.
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by stopwar on 09.08.2005 [16:25 ]
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and thinking this is all very fishy. Bushes & Bin Ladens, like two royal families, very palsy walsy. Then Osama becomes the scapegoat for "the biggest terrorist attck since the last biggest terrorist attack", then the Bin Ladens leave the US very quickly. Hmmm!
Yet Michael Moore didn't follow this up at all in Fahrenheit 911. Whyever not? Could have at lewast posed the questions, even if he didn't profess to know answers.
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by Econ on 09.08.2005 [16:33 ]
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It is all coming back to haunt Cheney's Energy Task Force and the PNAC, Project for a New Pearl Harbor.
This is where the FBI should probaby start their investigation in order to arrest the dual-loyal neocons-jewish traitors and their apologists who perpetuated the worst terrorist attacks on Americans themselves.
The artifcial boost in nationalism from the staged 9-11 to permit the US to wage war for oil and Israel has now evaporated in America as Americans view that Iraq as a total failure and few are bothering to sign up for military service.
The neocon-jews are now looking for a new Pearl Harbor to reinstate a draft in the US as the US is losing the war in Iraq.
- Israel is planning another 9-11 attack on America.
h ttp://www.counterpunch.org/nimmo08252003.Html
"... Is Rafi Eitan in the United States and if so why hasn't the FBI arrested him? On August 16, Steinberg commented on Eitan's alleged resurfacing in the United States. "Eitan is making these high-risk journeys, U.S. and Israeli sources report, because he is directing plans for a major terrorist attack on American soil — a new 9/11 — to be blamed on either Muslim or Latin American terrorists..."
ht tp://www.progressiveconvergence.com/nuclearfalseflagmail.htm
Israel, Iran, Mossad and a Nuclear False Flag Attack
by R. Leland Lehrman
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by -guest- on 09.08.2005 [17:53 ]
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How did i miss this ... thanks you guys.
The bit above where it says
"Meanwhile, the drone would have taken up the other plane’s designated course. High over the island of Cuba, it would be exploded in mid-air after broadcasting an international distress call that it was under attack from enemy fighters."
Was that actually part of the Northwoods plan way back then?!
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by Lambros on 09.08.2005 [18:10 ]
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"The Mail sometimes goes for stories that the mainstream press won't touch with a bargepole - like the spreading of BSE from cows to humans, for example".
The BSE debacle... since 1986 BSE and vCJD , has insidiously blighted the heartbeat of British rural life. The disease has annihilated thousands of cattle and a growing number of young people, as well as creating a fierce battleground between nations, vested interests, political parties, farmers, victim support groups and consumers. More recently, the shock waves of the BSE debacle have ricocheted around the entire world, reaching as far afield as Japan and North America.
Yet despite the severity of the mad cow legacy, little genuine attempt has been made to crack the causal riddle of these diseases; thereby leaving us devoid of insight into measures that would best cure, control and better still, prevent this disease.
But hard scientific evidence is being amassed which indicates that vCJD and BSE could both result separately.
There us a total absence of BSE in organic cattle which could could be explained by the resistance of organic livestock farmers to comply with the UK government’s compulsory warble eradication programme using systemic organo dithio-phosphorus (OP) insecticides - toxic chemicals derived from the OP military nerve agents.
In 1982 measures were passed that enforced twice annual application of a uniquely concentrated dose (20 mg/kg bodyweight) of a systemic acting organo-dithio-phosphate insecticide for the control of warbles on UK cattle. Amongst a myriad of toxicological effects, the systemic types of dithio-phosphate can chelate copper and open up the blood brain barrier; thereby disturbing the overall balance of metals in the brain. I therefore considered that the copper depleting capacity of these OP insecticides had something to do with the origins of BSE, and had therefore been unsurprised to witness BSE rearing its ugly head in the UK cattle herd in 1986; which, in my opinion, was partly a direct legacy of the UK government’s compulsory ‘high dose’ warble fly campaign. The few other European countries who instigated warble fly campaigns (eg; France, Switzerland, Ireland, etc) used lower doses of insecticide, and, not surprisingly, developed proportionately fewer cases of BSE as a result.
I do not believe vCJD in humans is caught from eating beef.
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by Atheist on 09.08.2005 [18:10 ]
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Time for the dinosaur mainstream media to acknowledge Internet's work and give Internet a big credit. A huge difference can be seen between dinosaurs and cavemen/women paid to work in some mainstream-media offices and the aliens from outer space working in their own home offices without having to compel themselves to sell their stories and articles to the general public.
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by kamau on 09.08.2005 [20:22 ]
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...If 'OPERATION NORTHWOODS' was hatched in 1962 and then shelved, only to be rehatched 40+ years later on 9/11, what other 'False Flag Operations' do they have that have been shelved that they can just pull off the shelf, dust off, refurbish, and then use today?
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by Mike-Malaysia on 10.08.2005 [02:33 ]
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Mounting a fake WMD event is a LOT LOT LOT harder on someone elses turf than it is on your own.
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by wings on 10.08.2005 [02:41 ]
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After the two atomic bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were tested in Japan (1945), the CIA was created by Harry Truman:
"Original sign with seal from the CIA's first building on E Street in Washington, DC
The Agency, created in 1947 by President Harry S. Truman, is a descendant of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) of World War II. The OSS was dissolved in October 1945 but William J. Donovan, the creator of the OSS, had submitted a proposal to President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1944 calling for a new organization having direct Presidential supervision, "which will procure intelligence both by overt and covert methods and will at the same time provide intelligence guidance, determine national intelligence objectives, and correlate the intelligence material collected by all government agencies." Despite strong opposition from the military, the State Department, and the FBI, Truman established the Central Intelligence Group in January 1946. Later under the National Security Act of 1947 (which became effective on September 18, 1947) the National Security Council and the Central Intelligence Agency were established."
ht tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA#History
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by wings on 10.08.2005 [02:43 ]
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has been coerced through US puppet regimes since the bombing of Hiroshima.
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by wings on 10.08.2005 [02:47 ]
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was thought to be one of the first CIA success stories ... 1953.
"This extremely important document is one of the last major pieces of the puzzle explaining American and British roles in the August 1953 coup against Iranian Premier Mohammad Mossadeq. Written in March 1954 by Donald Wilber, one of the operation’s chief planners, the 200-page document is essentially an after-action report, apparently based in part on agency cable traffic and Wilber’s interviews with agents who had been on the ground in Iran as the operation lurched to its conclusion. "
ht tp://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28
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by Mike-Malaysia on 10.08.2005 [03:10 ]
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- stopwar on 09.08.2005 13:57
If the article is correct and the passengers disembarked at a "secret military base" (yawn) then these people were killed and bodies disposed of there. If your gonna kill 3000 people in NY, then of couse killing a few 100 more disembarking from a plane is no sweat!
- stopwar on 09.08.2005 14:01
I also fully expected WMD to be planted. I guess it was simply too tough to do in Iraq, what with total lack of command over the people and a flase paper trail would have been necessary to stop people like us from shouting pythosesque like "you just put them there", "No I didn't". "Oooh - all lies, Yes you did" And we have seen before that creation of forged documents is even harder still (Forged Niger documents, Galloway Oil documents).
- concernedguest on 09.08.2005 14:06
Yes, the silence of Russia and China is deeply suspicious. Then again Russia doesn't want to call the pot black then it tried to kill its own people in Ryazan. It gets worse: any countries "Intellignece" agencies gave warnings to the US that a significan 9-11 type event was going to occur. Either these foreign agencies were duped or knowingly issued warnings they knew to be fake. If they were duped, then they would have investigated their sources and of course found them to be bogus. The Brit sources of "intelligence" were proposterous. Chalabi and dissidents and students. So you can imagine what 'lesser' countries intelligence would have been like. If they were duped, why stay silent about it? If they knowingly gave false info, then why publicise it? Either way, illuninati theory explains it all.
- stopwar on 09.08.2005 14:13
Never do such a thing? Come on... Especially after The Russians sis their own 9-11 in Ryazan.
- verve on 09.08.2005 15:13
Worlds worst atricity... Hiroshima/Nagasaki very likely... Iraq sanctions also perhaps... etc etc. What you can be sure of is, not matter what the 'worst' one is, its gonna be the US and/or UK pigs behind it. They lead the gold medal table on that one, tahts for sure!
- m47vb44 on 09.08.2005 15:41
Babi (malay word for pig) eyes lit up with glee - Yeah. No surprizes there then. The bloody fool obviously thought he was speaking toa fellow zionist rotbag. Given that it was CNN, that was actaully pretty likely! Touche!
Never watched your foreignheight 9-11 mate, always thought it would be watered down food trough water for the brainless american masses.
Parasites occupying Palesting plan another 9-11 on the US. Absolutely! People of Los Angles, smell that sweet Dimona waste! In fact I have read that Another 'terror' attack in the UK is immiment. Fear raking probaly but they will have to follow it up or the 'boy who cried wolf' senario will develop and the cycle of fear is broken.
- kamau on 09.08.2005 20:22
Old ops being taken off the dusty shelves and employed? Take a look at...
ht tp://www.vialls.com/cia/oss_earthquakes.html
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by ohm on 10.08.2005 [04:13 ]
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Yeah all this sounds good, even the title is suggestive, we even have chearleaders, as if, this is some kind of significant event. psycologically these AGENTS PROVACETEURS are there to reinforce the IDEA being posed. The only thing this article tells me, IS THAT, THEIR PROPAGATED MEDIA is attempting to CONTROL THE CONSPIRACY THEORY. This is the 2nd one within a week, the 1st one was out of the U.S.... Is it a conspiracy against the conspiricist believer, NO, I think its more of a concerted effort to effect mental change of thinking. The Communists believed he who controled information controled the mind, he who controled the mind controled the people.
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by httpip on 10.08.2005 [04:35 ]
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the us gov cover up for the knowlege of timing not for the location...
the us intel is pretty good in predicting the timeframe but still as pre 9/11 is in dark about its whereabout, that has been exploited to the utmost in 9/11....
elaborate?
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by ohm on 10.08.2005 [04:56 ]
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This article makes no mention of ISRAELS INVOLMENT IN THE CONSPIRICY AT ALL. Just like the other bullshit article. This article also suggests that the mining of the WTC buildings was homegrown, HOMEGROWN ??? the only thing homegrown about it was the idea of how much and how to transport the explosives to WTC which was learned fromTimothy McVeigh. All indications suggest Israeli Moving companies and Israeli security contract at WTC, lets not forget the owner ISRAELI who said WTC7 was pulled. "PULLED ???"' DEMOLITION JARGON for DEMOLISHED. A word used in the context of his comment to mean exactly what people in the field of Demolition understand that word to mean. " Pull " is the act of PULLING the detonation switch. Lets not forget the Israeli company in WTC who evacuated prior to the attack regardless of being prewarned or not, they all got out???ESP. and theirs all kinds of other shit out there also implicating ISRAEL. NOW I KNOW.. Netanyahu is a ZIONIST MURDERER.
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by Yasis on 10.08.2005 [05:43 ]
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Yes, there are a lot of Israeli intrigue in all this. Israeli history of false flags operations such as the Lavon affair does not help the situation either. But sadly without evidence, all this is just speculation. But this article in the mainstream press is a good start to solving the mystery of who orchestrated the attacks on 9-11.
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by ohm on 10.08.2005 [07:46 ]
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Im not only taking this article into account, im also taking the other article i see as bullshit into account. ( TERROR EXPERT; London bombers MI6 asset 03:08:05 ). (1)-out of the US- FOX NEWS refering to 7/7 attacks, conspiricy, and UK intelligence,military. (2)-out of the UK-refering to 9/11 attacks, conspiricy, and US intelligence,military. If you fuck what each is saying, youll realize both are using the same format to launch there diversionary conspiricy from ISRAELS ROLE in both, which they dont mention at all in both and is implicit in both. To me this is signal that COUP D ETAT is successful in the UK as it was in the US.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 10.08.2005 [09:13 ]
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You have good points in your posts. The dancing so called Israyhelli's too (the dancing zionists)! Then we have the so called 'Israyhelli' anthrax events soon after 9-11. An investigation that was terminated when it was clear that zionist and proven arab hater and zionist Dr. Lt. Col. Philip Zack. Aided and abetted by whitewasher and jewish political activist (jewish political activist = ?i wonder?) Barbara Rosenberg who accused (groundlessly of course) Dr.Stephen Hatfill.
The Jewish/zionist (here in this case, the two words are interchangeable) anthrax attacks were part of the culture of fear are linked to 9-11.
To ignore the zionist element here is a degredation to the memory of those innocents that were slaughtered on 9-11 and killed by the Oct anthrax attacks.
Rotton bastrds. I still feel though that by giving mainstream exposure to the lies of 9-11 will make people more likely to question the other aspects of the greatest lie in 21st century history. If they think they can control the facts of the conspiracy they are gladly mistaken.
Publish away is what I say, just look out for obviously wrong and illigetimate evidence.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 10.08.2005 [09:17 ]
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But sadly without evidence, all this is just speculation. - Regarding what point? What case is there no evidence about?
where is there no May I memind you Yasis, that you saw nothing wrong with quoted US zionist Mark Kirk on his calim that N.Korea launched an ICBM towards the US west coast and that nukes were 'found' in Alaska.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 10.08.2005 [09:22 ]
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there is no mistery about 9-11!
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by Yasis on 10.08.2005 [09:37 ]
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That Israel had a role in 9-11.
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by mikeuk on 10.08.2005 [09:46 ]
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how many times are you doughnuts gonna beleive the crap you read that is instigated by jewish zionists?
the only source that russian gov killed their own is the jewish zionist berezovsky, (currently under protection by the british government, his masters?)
he is the only one to ever make this claim, why? because more than likley he arranged it, and he is responsible in order to discredit putin.
perhaps the gov before putin were involved in killing their own, but putin is a pure nationalist, hated by the west and loved by most of his own, except the jewish theives & hilarious national bolshevik party, which are pretty much a mirror of the uk's BNP! racist thugs.
do some research on berezovsky & terrorism in russia, you will be enlightened. read paul klebkikovs book on berezovsky, it is pure fact from interviews, and it deserves to be read by all because berezovsky had him murdered for writing it.
please dont be too quick to fall into the jewish zionist trap of beleiving their claptrap!
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by Mike-Malaysia on 10.08.2005 [09:52 ]
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Stop apologising for the illegal parasitic state currently occupying Palestine. No evidence? or no evidence that you find paletable.?
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by Yasis on 10.08.2005 [10:10 ]
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Actually, there is no direct evidence of the Israeli role in 9-11. Dancing Israelis? Cheering? The best that you can prove in a court of law is that the Israelis knew that an attack was going to happen. To say that they had a hand requires more evidence.
This is what I am trying to say. As much as I hate Israeli policies, I cannot judge things based on opinion alone.
There must be good evidence. Mike, I think that your feelings for the zionists is clouding your judgement.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 10.08.2005 [10:12 ]
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Mikeuk, so all those citizens and residents of the aparatments block in Ryazan that the FSB wanted to kill, who appeared on Russian TV against the local police force and officials and FSB officials, in addition to the Russian citizens that where threatened with death for only wanting to have the truth come out were all berezovsky, who wore many masks, and was able to split himself at light speed and create the illusion that there were many individual people with grave concerns.
Berezovsky said the FSB was behind some of the already exploded apartment building around Russia. As far as I know, I've never heard ANY comment from Berezovsky about the failed attempt at false-flag psy-op at Ryazan that I'm talking about.
Berezovsky probly is a murderous thug - thats why the UK authorities are looking after him. Part of the clan. But you still do not answer the Ryazan case. If you can then please do!
So for you to say Berezovsky is the only one making that claim is clearly tripe! Watch this Mikeuk. Go on tell me. Those were not ordinary citizens in that apartment block.
Go here Mikeuk ... ht tp://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_miscellaneous.htm
CTRL+F 'russia'. Watch.
mikeuk on 10.08.2005 09:46
line 1: how many times are you doughnuts gonna beleive the crap you read that is instigated by jewish zionists?
line 19: please dont be too quick to fall into the jewish zionist trap
Mikeuk says the zionists are laying a trap, yet in line 1 he says they are not involved in conspiracy.!!
Mikeuk, your letting your love of Russia blind u, just like the mass-Brits think there so superior, just like the mass-yanks think that God shed his grace on thee.
Line10: jewish theives Sounds like you suspect the Jews of doing dastardly deeds. So how do you dismiss the zionist aspects of 9-11
OK Mike. Refute ALL the israeli/zionist links to the WHOLE 9-11 story. There are so many of them!
You still havent pulled your pants up mike. Your still showing your willy!
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by Mike-Malaysia on 10.08.2005 [10:25 ]
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Yasis I am sorry if I let my views of zionists (global murder instigating thugs, willing to kill anyone that will benefit them, people that consider anyone else non-human and on the same level as dogs, and torturing villians that have influcted untold horron on the Palestinain people.) How could I have let that cloud my judgement.!
The best that you can prove in a court of law is that the Israelis knew that an attack was going to happen If you consider the dancing Israyhell'is alone perhaps, but even if this can be proved, it makes them automatically guilty of mass murder as they failed to give warning to the US Govt (the US Govt totally denied it had prior knowledge remember??) Then you have all the other Israyhell-i aspects to it. This information has been in the public domain for AGES. Look it up Yasis, dont be a lazy sod.
It takes approximately TWO weeks to rig a building under perfect conditions for demolition. WTC7 was pulled for NO OGICAL REASON WHATSOEVER approximately 7 hours after the WTC1 and 2 were hit. This is pure absolute EVIDENCE of guilt and foreknowledge. The Jewish 'owner' (probably a zionist freak) is guilty of mass murder. People would have died as a result of WTC7 being purposely detonated. Its now aparent that WTC1 and 2 themselves had explosive charges placed inside them to ensure they colllapsed.
Surely you are just playing with me Yasis. Nobody can say this is not evidence. Nor the other huge elements to this story.
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by Yasis on 10.08.2005 [10:33 ]
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Well, its seems that we have a different view on what is evidence or not.
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by makarov on 10.08.2005 [10:33 ]
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There was a huge discussion about 9/11 in this thread:
ht tp://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?t=1673
Finally, official version followers failed to present any sort of cohesive picture of how could WTC1&2 collapse without explosives.
To say nothing about WTC6, Siverstein's "Pull it", Pentagon and other stuff.
Regarding explosions in Moscow and some other Russian cities, the question is not so clear, because there were relatively small appartment houses there. Several bags of explosives is more than enough to do away with a such one. But who has delivered that several bags is under the question.
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by ohm on 10.08.2005 [10:35 ]
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This article mentions that the 911 conspiricy is a sham because an operation so complex and intricate would require the silence till death of 1000s even the families of the victims, which isnt happening in a democracy. This is the 2nd time i heard this, Is this supposed to be some type of official closing arguement. BULLSHIT...( WW2 ) The JULY 20 1944 PLOT TO ASSASINATE ADOLPH HITLER and sieze control of the 3RD REICH ( OPERATION VALKYRIE ) is a perfect example of IT DONT TAKE 1000s upon 1000s to do a COUP D ETAT. It Only tAKES STRATEGICALLY PLACED PEOPLE to CARRY OUT A CONSPIRICY. 911, The ZIONIST ROLE WAS TO PLAY TERRORIST, and to do a terror campaign in the US. And all of them got caught detained and deported. and thes were the same fucks the media described as MIDDLE EASTERN taking photos of buildings ,dams, celebrating 911 in the US, BLAH BLAH BLAH. THE ROLE of the conspiritors in the US GOVERMENT, CORPORATE MEDIA, AND MILITARY is transparent. COVERUP and push the agenda to the next level. FUNNY, THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO HELL.
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by makarov on 10.08.2005 [10:36 ]
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"WTC7" of course instead of "WTC6" in my pervious post.
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by stopwar on 10.08.2005 [10:50 ]
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that the emergency services were on a drill on 11th September. This would give greater control than would otherwise have been the case.
I still haven't a clue as to the real perpetrators of 9/11, but I think that the neocons knew that a group of Islamists were planning something, and let enough of their plan go ahead for them to get the blame. They had emergency services ready, they used this excuse to have CNN alerted, and they had the towers wired up. The rest, as they say, is history.
Hence the "conspiracy within a conspiracy".
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by concernedguest on 10.08.2005 [10:51 ]
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Perhaps once again. Perhaps focussing on what is clear may help. It us crystal clear that 9/11was carried by the bush regime and its allies. To a large extent, trying to figure out the other detials of the case will lead to blind alleys (atta, dancers etc)
The article (very cleaverly written btw) simply makes this evident.
What follows (logically, thereafter) is mindblowing and focusing on that would help not getting distracted (which is the whole idea)
"they" need to keep "you" /"me"/"us" distracted enough to get on with it and have managed to do so, so far.
The European Union,
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by Yasis on 10.08.2005 [10:53 ]
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Will the truth about 9-11 ever be revealed? The US regime must be toppled
I think.
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by mikeuk on 10.08.2005 [11:05 ]
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when i get time i'll check your links out, in the meantime get yourself a copy of Godfather of the Kremlin, Boris Berezovsky, by Paul Klhebnikov. It is a fantastic, factual read. answers lots of questions.
i do beleive there are elements in the FSB still working for berezovsky, putin is rooting them out where he can along with corrupt local governers. its not an easy job!
yeltsin was practically controlled by berezovsky & abramovich & khordovsky in the end. these 3 among several others had one goal in mind. the same goal as the original jewish bolsheviks in the russian revolution. to steal the wealth of russia. yeltsin was a pawn for the west. putin gained power via yeltsin, then turned on them all.
maybe you & the residents are right about the FSB, but this order was not from putin, it was from the zionist masters to destroy putin.
yes i do love russia, and i admire putin, he is the worlds most sane leader, and super intelligent, flying his own jets to beslan, throwing people twice his size karate style! he even personally rescued his own family from the house he built with his own hands when the place was burned to the ground.
as for 9/11, im behind you 100%
i dont know if it was the jews (most likley), the neo cons, etc.. etc...
but its very unlikley a bunch of arabs with box cutters.
the trap i was referring to is the russophic anti putin bullshit spouted by the BBC, incidently the BBC were the first people to obtain the footage from beslan school massacre, funny that, how did they get it before russia, unless they had someone on the inside?
the attackers at beslan were highly trained military & others forced to do it. one guy stood for 3 days on the spot with his foot on a detonator. could you do that? stand for 3 days, no sleep, no movement? i know i could not do it for 10 minutes!
it's common knowledge in russia, and somewhat of a joke at dinner tables. all the terrorists come from britain.
maybe we are looking to the wrong person by looking at the usa, perhaps prince philip is behind everything, leading his bankers, rothschilds & rockerfellas into world domination?
whoever it is, they wont stop at the middle east, they want all the oil, and they almost had it with yeltsin, khordovsky, berezovsky & brammybitch. putin has stopped them in their tracks & we should hail him for that. the only fucker on this planet with the courage to make some action!
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