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Israel ready to strike Iran
By: Aljazeera Publishing on: 02.01.2006 [06:50 ] (3694 reads)
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In October, a Russian rocket carried Iran’s first spy satellite, the Sinah-1, into orbit. This launch accelerated Israel’s plans to strike Tehran’s nuclear facilities; the Jewish state is now getting ready for an attack by the end of March.
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While Iran’s nuclear program is Israel’s main concern, its space capabilities are also considered a “point of no return”, which determined the actual timing of the Israeli strike. "The Iranians' space program is a matter of deep concern to us," said an Israeli defense official. “If and when we launch an attack on several Iranian targets, the last thing we need is Iranian early warning received by satellite."
Iran wants to master space technology as soon as possible, amid fears the West will seek to impose restrictions on its satellite program like those placed on its NUCLEAR PLANS. According to an article on Global Research.ca, the Sinah-1 is just the first of several Iranian satellites set for Russian launches in the coming months. The Islamic republic is also working on a Shahab-4 missile that could carry an Iranian-built satellite on its orbit.
Thus the Iranians will soon have a satellite network in place to give them early warning of an Israeli attack. However, Iran‘s satellites won’t be as efficient as more powerful Israeli and American space spies that can track the slightest movements; cameras on Israel’s Ofek-5 spy satellite have been monitoring the activities in Arab countries and Iran since 2002.
Moreover, Russia signed a $1 billion contract to sell Iran an advanced defense system that can destroy guided missiles and laser-guided bombs, the Sunday Times reports. This too will be ready in the next few months.
The timing of the Israeli attach is closely linked to Israel’s political situation. With a parliamentary elections on March 28, Prime Minister ARIEL SHARON, who quit the right-wing Likud to form a new centrist party, wants to look strong. Former PM Benjamin Netanyahu, the newly elected Likud leader, pledged that if Sharon doesn’t act against Iran, "then when I form the new Israeli government, we'll do what we did in the past against Saddam's reactor, which gave us 20 years of tranquility."
This all pushed SHARON to rally the country, and stave off this lunge from the right, with a strike against Tehran. "Israel — and not only Israel — cannot accept a nuclear Iran," the Israeli Prime Minister said recently. "We have the ability to deal with this and we're making all the necessary preparations to be ready for such a situation."
A strike against Iran would be popular in Israel, where everyone agrees that Iran cannot be allowed to have the kind of nuclear weapons that Israel itself possesses in such bristling abundance. By the late 1990s, the U.S. intelligence community estimated that Israel possessed between 75-130 nuclear weapons, including missiles and bombs, according to the Federation of American Scientists.
Israel did its homework. The March deadline also comes with an International Atomic Energy Agency report on Iran’s NUCLEAR PROGRAM, which could lead to UN sanctions against Tehran, as Israel and the United States want. According to the Sunday Times, SHARON had already ordered Israel’s special forces to be at the “highest stage of readiness” for the strike. Commenting on the report, a top White House official said that the threat of a nuclear Iran was moving to the top of the international agenda, and the question "what next?” would have to be answered in the next few months. (Meaning: Sure, March could work for us.)
Only a fool would believe that the Bush administration gave up its ambitions for “full-spectrum dominance” in the Middle East just because Iraq turned into a disaster. To Washington, Iraq has always been a step towards Iran; which was never punished for removing the U.S.’s puppet, the shah, and seizing the American Embassy in Tehran. In fact, Iran is the first step to Washington’s ultimate goal; planting U.S.-controlled hands on Middle Eastern and Central Asian oil, thus halting the political rise of China and India, and ensuring a “new American century” of unchallenged profit and privilege. For the elite, of course; as always, those back home have to deal with the bills and the body bags from these war games.
The United States and Israel have already begun a covert war against Iran. With defiant Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, BUSH and SHARON will have little trouble gaining support for such an attack. In the next few months, we’ll see the usual charade of “diplomacy” as military plans are being finalized.
Link: www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=10383
Important note: Aljazeera Publishing and Aljazeera.com are not associated with the controversial Arabic Satellite Channel known as Jazeera Space Channel TV station whose website is Aljazeera.net. Aljazeera Publishing disassociates itself from the views, opinions and broadcasts of Jazeera Space Channel TV station.
by picard-fortune-500 on 02.01.2006 [09:10 ]
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www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/664893.html
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by Yasis on 02.01.2006 [12:38 ]
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All sort of noise from USA and Israel. Cut the crap USA, got balls attack DPRK now.
DPRK has nuclear weapons. Don't act like a dog. Only know how to bark.
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by onlyhuman on 02.01.2006 [12:51 ]
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for the parasites to attack Iran when their actual fighting force (USuk pigs) are trapped in Iraq?
Well, I guess those pigs are dispensable to further zionist cause.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 02.01.2006 [15:21 ]
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We have managed to prevent this Zionist invasion from conquering the whole of the Middle East (which was its original goal).
If one looks at the maps of Eretz Israel drawn in the diaries of early Zionists such as Theodore Herzl, one sees that their plan of Eretz Israel included Syria, Jordan, and Iraq.
Also, when some of the Zionists attempt to justify their invasion of Muslim lands, they point to verses in the Bible (book of Genesis)in which it claims that God promised land to the Jews. But those lands mentioned in the Bible include Jordan and Iraq.
Considering that the Zionist aim has been the conquest of all the lands between the Nile and the Eurphrates, and also considering that the Zionist invasion received the support of Europe and the USA, it is impressive that we Muslims have managed to keep it down to such a relatively small size.
Hopefully now, we shall see that good uncle Jad has a plan to lure Israel into attacking Iran so that we can counterstrike another crushing blow against their sick Zionist objectives.
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by verve on 02.01.2006 [15:57 ]
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this ain't cowboys and freakin' indians man. Only a severly sick puppy would egg on a wounded lion. Is DPRK eggin' em on, hell no. Play with fire, ya'll gona get nasty sunburn. Banish such thoughts from your head, if you care for your country and your people.
Having a strong defence is the key. Powerful allies helps, but saying things that play to the Zionists hand; sure hope Jad knows what he's doing, but at times he comes across (media maybe) as an agent provocature. Just my read. I'd do it to 'if' I had the deterrant, but then I'd give a practical demonstration to deliver the point. There is no element of surprise involved here, the cards are on the table, the wolves are at the door. Ever tease a wolf?
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by DevilsAdvocate on 02.01.2006 [17:14 ]
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The current leader of Iran suits the usans more than he does the Iranians, wouldn't you say? I know quite a few Iranians and they tend to see themselves as the Lebanese did in the 70's.... they remain religious but would prefer a more lenient interpretation of Islam. They don't like the ham shanks too much, but neither do they want to follow the taliban's interpretation of Islam. They see themselves as much more modern. So it was quite a surprise to many of them when the current President won the election. The result suited bush'blair very well.... a man that would slag off the west and jews, no holds barred, making Iran very unpopular with the readers of the sunday papers. Crikey, you'll be stoning young women to death next!! See what I mean? Very convenient to the west. Where was your president educated? Any ideas?
As to "we Muslims".... er..... give us a break. There is more anti-war sentiment in the non-muslim population of the UK than the rest of the Middle East. What are your Muslim Brothers in Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Jordan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan etc. etc. doing to bring the war to an end? A lot less than the anti-war movements (the real ones) in Europe, that's for sure. You had a big chance to band together and put a stop to all this. And you did nothing, as usual.
We're doing our best at this end..... what say you?
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 02.01.2006 [19:46 ]
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Verve, no one genuinely has any thoughts in their head to lure an attack. The meat of the message there is that we will not be intimidated by Israel's threats. If they're going to rattle their sabres at us, which they have been, we are not going to show fear.
We're not teasing wolves. If they're at the door (which they are), then we're going to make some noise to let them know that we're not hiding in a corner.
None of this is happening in a vacuum. Israel was not just minding its own business, and then we come along and start making a racous. We were minding our own business when Israel bared its teeth and snarled at us; so now we're firing a shot into the air.
No, we're not even doing that, we're just yelling and clapping our hands. Firing a shot into the air comes later if Israel does not relent.
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by C-Real on 02.01.2006 [20:04 ]
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IraN is not IraQ
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 02.01.2006 [20:08 ]
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"The current leader of Iran suits the usans more than he does the Iranians, wouldn't you say?"
Maybe that's true. But on the other hand I would offer another way of looking at it also: The USA can create any excuse to attack Iran at any time that it likes to do so.
We saw that Saddam complied with the US demands, no matter how outrageous those demands were, and the US found every little uncrossed t and evey little dot out of place to make the case that Saddam was in non-compliance.
On the other hand, we saw that the DPRK was not respected until they showed strength.
So, I think that even if Jad plays the nice guy game, the US can still make Iran look as bad as they want it to look. At least now Jad is rousing the Muslims together, which as you've noted, do need some sort of incentive.
The Muslims in many part of the world may have lost hope that any government is interested in protecting their interests; but if Jad shows strength and defiance, it may motivate those Muslims which you've noted seem to have become lethargic from despair and lost hope.
"I know quite a few Iranians and they tend to see themselves as the Lebanese did in the 70's.... they remain religious but would prefer a more lenient interpretation of Islam."
The Iranians that one meets outside of Iran or in the wealthy northern districts of Tehran tend to be less religious.
But the majority of Iranians are very religious in Islam.
And while I may personally prefer a more lenient version of Islam, I feel I must put aside my personal feelings in order to keep Iran united since we are under threat.
Some of Jad's policies may be stricter than I prefer, but I believe that a very large portion of Iranians do want that; and I am not about to begin complaining against my leader at a time when Iran needs to hold together. The more the USA pushes us, the more tightly we're going to hold on to our Islam.
"Where was your president educated? Any ideas? "
He got a degree in Civil engineering and then he got a PhD in city traffic management engineering, or something like that. It was at the University of Tehran.
He also fought as a commando in the Iran/Iraq war in addition to studying civil engineering.
"There is more anti-war sentiment in the non-muslim population of the UK than the rest of the Middle East."
I'd say that there is more anti-war activity in the UK; but not more anti-war sentiment. Muslim feelings rarely turn into cvil protest since in our countries led by pro-Western puppets, that civil protest is an invitation to be picked up in the middle of the night and be taken to a torture detention center.
In those countries like Egypt or Saudi Arabia, a Muslim who is willing to take action must be willing to pay the ultimate price, because usually that is what is required by the environment imposed upon him by the Wests' puppets at the head of his country.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 02.01.2006 [20:22 ]
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Any sign of weakness is a sure invitation for a Zionist attack.
Cowards like the USA and Israel are looking for any sign of weakness from Iran.
In the face of such bullies, Iran must show defiance and it must demonstrate that it has the emotional willingness to confront any invasion with eager and zealous wrath. Rhetoric which welcomes an attack presents just such an attitude.
The intuitive response when faced with bullies is to keep quiet and remain silent and unobstrusive, hoping to not be noticed. But that sort of behavior is exactly what the oppressors like to see, and that passiveness is what whets their blood thirst.
Doing the counter-intuitive thing, and standing up with a straight back and a grim smile is the sort of thing that imperialists think twice about.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 02.01.2006 [20:33 ]
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While it might be nice to have the support of the US and the UK people, there are two problems with that.
First of all, Bush and Blair can create any image of Iran as negatively as they like. If Iran makes that easier for them, that will make little difference.
Second of all, I have not seen that the opinions of the US or UK people have much bearing on their government's decisions anyways. I infer that Jad has noticed the same thing. When a million US people marching in New York at the Republican National convention get laughed at by the US media, and when Senator's who disagree with Bush end up with untimely accidents, and when people who disagree with Blair end up committing suicide under suspicious circumstances, ans when the protests of Cindy Sheehan and her celerbrity friends amount to nothing, and when many things like that happen, then the motivation to attempt to influence the public opinion of the US or UK people becomes seen as an exercise in futility.
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by stоpwar on 02.01.2006 [20:57 ]
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You'd be surprised at the support for Iran's nuclear stance from ordinary politically aware folk in the UK - especially after he made that remark about Israel.
I'm glad you stated your President's credentials - an Engineering Degree and PhD sounds good enough to me. How many Western leaders are educated to that level?
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by verve on 02.01.2006 [21:54 ]
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time plays to Iran's side (see: Iraq), no problem with facing down a bully, but falling to their 'level' is very unbecomming. Israel is an aparteid state and should be treated as such, international parriah status should be its fate and the 'bitch' between Shitzrael and Iran should be framed as such. Jad would have gained more by shining light on the ugly plight of the poor Palestinian than pissin' matches over non existant nuclear weapons. Everyone is distracted by the 'he said, she said' threat of an attack on Iranian, it plays to Zionist hand and the people on the ugly end of the stick are forgotten again. Ain't that the root of the problem?Syrian support for Palestine, Hussien support for Palestine? Iran support for Palestine? Palestinian still losing land to Zionist, still living in cement cage; for bad germans, for oil, for jew land, for foreign jew settlers, for US access to oil, pick one, like it matters to Palestinians living in the cement cage.
I don't have the answers, but I do know that framing the words properly can mean all the difference, and considering the stakes (life and death) minding ones p's and q's,...........well take George W Texan moron, Jad's words and actions were so, neocon like. Mind you, half the time I wonder if we ever get a true translation of what is being really said, and in the west we only get the 'see, I told you they were mad' info. Is Putin Bush's bitch? Jad and Putin friends? Putin has access to WW2 truth. He could say same as Jad but he doesn't. Hmm? Putin send cops, weapons, vehicles, instructors to Palestine to help. Putin doesn't frame (not publicly) current Palestinian occupation in WW2 light, it's not constructive to present situation. Ugly mess all around either way though.
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by verve on 02.01.2006 [22:20 ]
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should be going out of their way to embarrass Shitzrael and by default USA over Palestine illegal occupation, at UN, on street corner, in general conversation, I make it a habit, yeh they can belly ach about the 'plight' of jews but what they do to Palestinian is same as Nazi do to jew, gypsy and anyone else they didn't like. It shuts people up, without denying anything, and if being pro-Palestinian makes me anti-Shemite, colour me purple. If you know who Shem was, you know who the shemites are. How European jew, foreign jew, not native to Palestine gets to claim land there is totally beyond me, I don't care what their 'book' says. Foreign jew doesn't get to claim stollen Palestinian land because of WW2, foreign jew claim land because of book bullshit.
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by stоpwar on 02.01.2006 [22:38 ]
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How Israel got its name.
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by Nick_UK on 02.01.2006 [22:39 ]
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....to think that Ahmedinajad has been 'placed' into power by Zionists so as to demonise Iran in the eyes of flag-waving, hysterical Western boobs. Let's face it, there's a lot of Muslim/Arab-haters in the west who'd love to see the likes of Iran and Iraq turned into battlefields of chaos and destruction. These rightist oiks certainly don't need to be 'given' a combative Islamic leader to further stoke their sick minds.
All enemies of fascism have won the day when they act tough in the face of these, as Iranian Shiite rightly called them, wolves. As much as I'm not a fan of the Northkorean Stalinist state, they've prevented aggression against the nation by acting tough. Venezuela has similarly gained kudos by not being bullied by Washington and by bravely reversing the 2002 coup. Iraq naively believed it could avoid being conquered by cooperating with the 'international community' (aka US, Britain, Israel). It let in UN inspectors even though the government knew many of them were spies. Syria too has had its sovereignty violated numerous times by US ground troops 'pursuing insurgnts' (i.e. conducting recon misions) + the whole Hariri affair exposed Syrias weakness. Iran's lack of cooperation with the IAEA,etc and the fighting words will greatly benefit the country in the long run.
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by stоpwar on 02.01.2006 [22:46 ]
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Syria should have been totally dismissive of the Hariri affair from the start - and treated with contempt all that crap about "The International Community", which we all know means Bush-Blair and a few bribed hangers on. The UN wouldn't then have "legitimised" the accusations.
Syria should have learnt earlier, but thanks to Iran, it still has time.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 02.01.2006 [22:51 ]
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It may have been better for Jad's rhetoric to have been more refined and more polished. I can see your point there. But let's take a look at what he actually said in context:
He gave some examples of Khomeini's predictions having come true, and then he said that Khomeini said that Israel would one day be gone off the map.
Did this play into Zionist hands? Yes it did because the Zionists were able to take his words out of context and make it seem that he made a direct threat against Israel.
However, can I criticize Jad for what he said? No, I can't. I had been thinking the same thing (that since Khomeini's other predictions had come true then this one of his may come true also). I might have repeated the same thing myself.
It may indeed play into Zionist hands by their ability to take the words out of context and by their ability to make themselves appear to be the victim. However, I think that disadvantage is negated by three factors:
1. Jad's statements were a morale booster and a confidence supporter for the Muslim people at a time when we need it badly.
2. The Zionist media can paint a corrupt picture of Iran no matter what we say.
3. The favorable opinion of the US/UK people don't matter to the US/UK governments anyways.
Furthermore, I can not criticize Jad at a time when we need national unity. I may disagree with his tactics personally, but I will publicly stand by him no matter what.
I may criticize Iran's support for the Badr brigade in Iraq; but that is a different matter entirely. That criticism does not endanger us, it is constructive, and it is within the same family.
As for Iran's nuclear ambitions, there is no way that we will back down. That is unthinkable!
At a time when we already perceived the West to be attempting to hold us back in technological and scientific advancement, we agreed to their demands to not develop a multi-stage Shahab missile.
We've already agreed once to willingly and voluntarily thwart our own technological advancement under their pressure.
In addition, they're already discussing attempts to halt our space program, e.g. "The Iranians' space program is a matter of deep concern to us," according to an Israeli official mentioned in the article above.
We are not going to allow them to keep us backward and servile to their whims.
Under no circumstance will we give up our right to the peaceful development of nuclear technology.
I can not disagree with Jad on this point at all, and I think that the majority of the Iranian people support this goal.
And while his rhetoric may be defiant, it has also been taken out of context, and it did increase the confidence of the Muslim people.
As for Jad's comments about Palestinians being punished for Europe's crimes, I think it had to be said. It was just too obvious to keep under lock and key. It was an elephant in the room and somebody had to point it out.
New ground has been broken. Courageous individuals are needed to break old taboos. I myself suggested such an idea in a university discussion in the USA. I suggested that Israel be moved to West Texas. People have to say these things despite the risk. We must show courage and move forward. We must eventually get out from under this darkness which prevents us from discussing some verry obvious questions about history. Somebody had to take the first step.
Now, are we going to support him, or are we going to knock him down?
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by stоpwar on 02.01.2006 [23:00 ]
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ref: www.kuwaittimes.net/regional.asp?dismode=article&artid=132682675
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by stоpwar on 03.01.2006 [00:09 ]
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"The name "Israel" is rooted in the Hebrew Bible, the Tanakh, wherein Jacob is renamed Israel after wrestling with a mysterious adversary ("a man", and later "God" according to Genesis 32:24-30; or "the angel", according to Hosea 12:4)."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
Jacob was one of Abrahams sons, ands the land where he grew up was "Ur", in Mesopotamia. According to other web sources, the Hebrew people, as Jacob's family became known, moved to Palestine a little later and the land was called Israel after Jacob..
Hmmmmm.... So do todays Israelites want to go all the way back to Abraham? That would take them to Iraq, not Palestine. I wonder why there was all that fighting between the Mesopotamians and the English after ww1 - was Iraq then a candidate for the homeland referred to in the Balfour Declaration?
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by stоpwar on 03.01.2006 [00:23 ]
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with the article currently in "Historical Analysis":
ref; www.iraq-war.ru/article/75404
which suggests that these were a small tribal people of the Nile, not the Euphrates.
Again... Hmmmmm
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 03.01.2006 [02:20 ]
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Hello.
"Jacob was one of Abrahams sons."
You might want to double check that. My understanding is that Jacob was the grandson of Abraham through Isaac.
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 03.01.2006 [02:25 ]
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I don't know of any historical evidence for the existence of a Biblical/Quranic Abraham.
That person may be a composite and a metaphor for faith.
If Abraham is just a metaphor for faith, then it requires faith to believe in his existence, which means that it requires faith to have faith.
If that were the case, then I would find such a circular paradox to be most apropos for exegesis of the story and the complexity of contemplating God.
just my opinion.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 03.01.2006 [02:43 ]
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Being ready for an attack by the end of March. is not the same thing as WILL strike by the end of March. Besides, I think its pretty obvious that the scumbag parasites will try and strike when there is a lull in Iranian heightened state of alert.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 03.01.2006 [03:00 ]
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cries of 'rubbish, it doesn't work', are in relation to Russias advanced defense system that can destroy guided missiles and laser-guided bombs Why is it that its only american military hardware that is junk, yet claims (for they seem very secretive and untested) of Russias hardware go unchecked!
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by Mike-Malaysia on 03.01.2006 [03:05 ]
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fixed the intelligence around the policy (i.e. they lied their arses off to their own government and people) in order to pacify those people.
To me i looks like Aljazeera is doing something similiar. Not lying, but fixing. - Fixing a story around the date of elections, then looking for what could be backup information, in support of their thesis.
Although such methods of prediction have a place in absence of other methods, its value is very questionable.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 03.01.2006 [03:08 ]
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the status of information from "top white house officials" be treated in a similiar cautionary manner. Half of the iraqwar is conducted by 'high ranking officials / senior commanders / top government officials'. Please bear that in mind.
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by axeman on 03.01.2006 [03:51 ]
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..a strength not seen in other leaders of muslim countries!
I see a man who is humble yet strong in the face of tyrants!
I see a man who has valiance and an urge to protect Islam from the vultures of satan!
I see a man who will uphold the flag of Jihad and cut the satan in half if he dares attack!
viva Jad viva, even though i am sunni muslim i have much respect for you, now all you gotta do is unify the sunni and shia and destroy the treacherous ones amongst you!
May Allah protect us all from the evil of the minions of the disgraced one Ameen.
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by axeman on 03.01.2006 [04:27 ]
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www.aliraqi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53165
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by Iranian-Shi'ite on 03.01.2006 [04:43 ]
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I had great respect and reverence for many Sunnis scholars such as the late Sheikh Ahmed Ismail Yassin, may he rest in peace.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 03.01.2006 [05:58 ]
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Jad. A useful tool for bLiar and Bush or upholder for Iranian interersts.???
The issue was raised by Devils-Advocate. And warrnats some thought, especially after the history of US puppets and tyrants in various "Muslim" countries over the years.
Consider this: Iranian leadership is benign. What deterrant is there for the proven imperialists, the murdering USUK filth, to halt their evil acts? They would see Iran as being weak, drawing Iran itself into the crosshairs.
The laternative is someone like Jad who is embarking upon the first level of resistance - that of coming out verbally against the US and their zionist masters (many of whom by the way, dont actually live in occupied Palestine but just a short ride from Wall St, NY.) It leaves the USUK/zionists axis of evil (the axis that does actually contain some - plentiful, evil) in no doubt that Iran won't be a piece of cake. That seriosu consequences will transpire whould Iran be pushed into a response.
I think Jad's doing the job well. As I.S. says, the US and their zionist masters could, at any time, manufacture a pretext for action against Iran - recall, this is what the coalition of the killing did against Iraq. It fixed the intelligence around the policy. Here, history is on Jads side and also in respect of countries being fairly quiet in the past.
Politics tends tobe reactionary. If there is a threat to a country, the people tend to rally around someone that is percieved to be a counter-weight to that force. Jad is a product of the iranian peoples concernes. Wasn't his victory by a satisfying margin? I put it to you that the Iranians surprized at his election victory probably didn't face the threat that the other Iranians do, i.e. they arn't in Iran.
I think Ahmadinejad is the perfect leader for Iran at this time. Although he is being creditied with Iranian 'success' stories at the moment, which his predicessor deserves recognition for, Jad is doing an excellent job. How many milluions of minds has he helped ope up about the holocaust? Even among learned collegues here on this forum, he has provoked great debate on the issue and whole torrents of truth, previuously hidden, have come gushing forth.
Jad's a cool cat. Meow.
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by Mike-Malaysia on 03.01.2006 [06:01 ]
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ope up milluions of minds, he has helped open up millions of minds too. ;)
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by Mike-Malaysia on 03.01.2006 [06:12 ]
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You mean lying naked in a coffin and engaging in pedophilia doesnt count?
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by Mike-Malaysia on 03.01.2006 [06:27 ]
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@ verve.
Jad did nake reference to the Palestinians. He said the Jes should be given lands from those tat supposedly made the holocause against them, and drew attention to why the Palestinians have to pay a price?
Do you honestly think that if Jad played it softly softly that Iran would be less likely for an attack by the US today? Remember Bush named Iran as one of the Axes if evil BEFORE Jad came to power, when Iran was in a relatively silent mode. Come on mate.
Hussein did side with the Palestinians - and the Palestinians loved it!. Saddam is said to have paid money to the families of what the Palestinians call 'martyrs'. Such stories may be USUK lies, but if true, who else tried to help those whose houses were bulldozed afterwards and those relatives were captured and tortured.
How much land did the parasites grab when Saddam's scuds were said to raining down on occupied Palestine. How much?
Framing words properly: If Jad words were pearlescent than Shakespear, it wouldn't matter one jot. The USUK zionist axis would twist and dostort those words as was proved with the "wiping off the map"__ fiasco.
Jads is not sinking to their level. He's bullying anyone. The brave kid that fights against the bully is not the same as the bully himself.
Putin isn't in the same boat. Putins defense is already well known as is the damn painful retrobution an agressor would face. This is why perhaps Beslan and Ukraine happen (No, I dont particularly believe that but one could reasonably argue it out)
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by axeman on 03.01.2006 [06:33 ]
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...of the Jad-i means the faliing of the Empire!!!
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by Mike-Malaysia on 03.01.2006 [06:43 ]
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Jads is not sinking to their level. He's not bullying anyone (quite unlike the filthy USUK zionist swine).
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by Mike-Malaysia on 03.01.2006 [07:16 ]
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by stоpwar on 03.01.2006 [08:57 ]
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see www.davidicke.com/headlines.php, and scroll down. Lot of other good articles for 3rd January, some reflecting our current themes. Man... has David been busy!
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by turco on 03.01.2006 [11:08 ]
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Iranian Shiite sez:
The more the USA pushes us, the more tightly we're going to hold on to our Islam.
This is a great sumary of what happens in the so-called islamic world, i.e. the countries with muslim populations (wheter or not they are governed by actual islamic rule, though in the case of Iran, it is actually an islamic govt. as well).
Of course US knows this, understands this, and actually aims this. Otherwise there is no way to explain its actions. Giving the credit of 9-11 to bin Laden included.
Since we can easily trace our "backwardness" (i.e. lack of competetiveness in areas of science, technology, arts, sports etc.) to islam (OK, to be reasonable, let's say strict legalistic implementations of islam, I don't want to be banned from the site like xuma), this makes perfect sense.
Create "heroes" out of fanatic wahabis, and radical loonies and gather the whole "islamic world" around those guys. I don't need to tell you how this would end, right?
And what is our strategy against this?
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by stоpwar on 03.01.2006 [11:51 ]
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I know what you are saying. And I was not at all impressed by Khoemeini. Still think he was probably a Western stooge - well, he got Reagan into power, didn't he?
Iran has been through dark times since the fall of the Shah, whether you liked him or not. There is something I like about this new leader, however, and I get the impression that he is someone Putin "could do business with" (to turn Thatcher's phrase around!).
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by IraqiResistance on 03.01.2006 [12:15 ]
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President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has an honest face. He has a face full with integrity. I believe that along with Putin he is an honest and true patriot.
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by verve on 03.01.2006 [13:46 ]
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I like Jad, so far, it's the bombastic verbage I find distracting. If it boosts national confidence I suppose, if that's what's needed, okay. But I still think he could frame the words 'better'. That's all.
I also see he's calling for the forensic evidence of the 6mil, now that's more constructive than denying anything. I thought the world jew population #s from that time were self explanitory, more jews after war than before, they musta bin humpin' like freakin' rabbits to replace six mil in a handful of years.
Can there be a compromise in the Palestinian conflict, ie, can shitzrael pull back to 67 border and co exist? Would Arab world accept this? Personally, I consider the indiginous jews of the ME Palestinians, I beleive they settled there after being kicked out of Ur, something about idol worship (might be wrong) the book's kind of convuluted. I expect Jad was referring to the Euro jew, the settler jew who take palestinian land due to jew book bullshit. Surely there are 'jews' living in Iran? Maybe he only used the 'word' zionist. I know Saddam, any speach I heard, always used 'zionist' never 'jew'. Sadly mush is lost in the 'translation' by the time it gets to the 'west'.
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by hellsbells on 03.01.2006 [15:29 ]
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"The Iranians' space program is a matter of deep concern to us," said an Israeli defense official. “If and when we launch an attack on several Iranian targets, the last thing we need is Iranian early warning received by satellite."
So the "israelis" want to wipe Iran from the map, or, at the very least, bomb them back to the stone age. An upstart rogue nation wants to destroy (yet another) ancient civilization? They moan about being threatened by Iran? They moan about Iran having the ability - not just the right - to defend themselves?
"israelizz are nutzz".
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by onlyhuman on 03.01.2006 [15:32 ]
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will all due respect, is there a possibility that the parasites will pull back?
Currently, theyre ready to strike Iran.
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by stоpwar on 03.01.2006 [15:39 ]
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"Israeli leader Ariel Sharon will officially hand charge to his deputy, Ehud Olmert, when he undergoes an operation to plug a hole in his heart.
The prime minister's office said Mr Olmert will be head of government for roughly three hours on Thursday, while Mr Sharon is being operated upon.
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ref: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4578108.stm
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by DevilsAdvocate on 03.01.2006 [15:48 ]
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Your points are well taken, and well made.
I hope you see the wayne madsen report.... may be just fearmongering. I hope so for all of us.
To "counter" it with some hopeful news, see www.tbrnews.org
I sincerely pray that these nutters are stopped before the joke goes too far.
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by hellsbells on 03.01.2006 [16:12 ]
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There was a famous judicial investigation in Canada in 1988, the Great Zundel Trial, which investigated "Did Six Million Really Die?". One outcome of this trial was the pioneering work by Fred Leuchter, an engineer who (among other things) was a contractor to US state prison systems, and an expert in death sentence technology. Fred examined the so-called death chambers in Auschwitz and other concentration camps, and pronounced them quite incapable of performing such functions. Since then Leuchter's findings have been confirmed by the Krakow Institute (on behalf of the Auschwitz authorities), and by two other scientific investigators including Germar Rudolf.
Leuchter of course lost all his contracts with US state governments, in retribution for his outspoken discoveries.
Zundel won his court cases. The Great Zundel Trial was edited by B. Kulaszka from court transcripts, and published as "Did Six Million Really Die? Report of the Evidence in the Canadian "Flase News" Trial of Ernst Zundel - 1988" in 1992 by Samisdat Publishers, Toronto (562pp).
However, Canadians are prohibited from reading about one of their own court trials!! Hundreds of copies were destroyed at the border. Such is the power of the zionists in Canada.
Alas, Zundel is now rotting in a German gaol, as is Rudolf, and Irving in an Austrian prison.
The proposal by Iran to hold a great forensic examination of the 6M question is timely. There is plenty of scientific & historical material for them to review. I look forward to this exciting development! At last the horrid hoax will be shown to be what it is - a hoax.
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by Econ on 03.01.2006 [16:23 ]
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The ignorant jews are thinking that there is much American support for their warmongering talk of bombing a soverign nation like Iran.
The only support the jews have left in America are the highly paid jew-apologists and traitors in the US Congress dependent on jew-money, jew votes and attention the jew-controlled media to stay in power.
Americans now view the dual-loyal warmongering jewish traitors here as a major threat to our dwindling prosperity and are now beginning to see why the Germans wanted the miserable and evil jews out of Germany. Germany was only able to recover and surpass Britain as Europe's largest economy by the expulsion of the corrupt and warmongering jews, a lesson that is NOT lost on patriotic Americans, who are watchin our beloved country disintegrate before our eyes under a staggering debt load.
The jew-led Iraq war has already caused a major rise in the US UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT load, massive inflation (carefully hidden with phony statistics) in food and energy and more massive unemployment in the transport section with the pending bankruptcy filings of Ford and GM.
Americans are seeing their standard of living plummet with one useless war too many.
Every where the jewsish parasites have gone, they have brought death and destruction to the host nation. Palestine was once a lovely place until the arrival of the poor and miserable jews and the Arabs were all our friends before the creation of the state of Israel.
The jews are terribly mistaken. IF the stupid are dumb enough to attack Iran and Iran responds by destroying the shitty ghetto of jewish parasities, Americans would hardly shed a tear for the disgusting and evil jews.
Israel and the jewish parasities have become a crippling economic burden that US taxpayers can NO longer afford as the US is now a bankrupt and debt ridden entity relying on foreigners for $2 billion a day and housing, debt and derivative asset bubbles to support a collapsed econony.
The jews are victims of their own doing causing war and mayhem with their ethnic cleansing, genocide and colonization of Palestine.
Americans need to get rid of the burdens of the jewish parasties and if the Iranians can do it, Americans will be ever greatful.
We need the jewish monkeys off our backs.
We built an economy on cheap oil and we need Iranian oil and export trade to reindustrialize our economy. The last thing we need is another war to drain away our dwindling resources.
We need NOTHING from the jewish parasities squatting on their stolen land in Palestine.
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by ohm on 03.01.2006 [16:26 ]
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Israels tribe ended up in Egypt through one of his sons Joseph.
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by Econ on 03.01.2006 [16:31 ]
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The ignorant jewish-neocons thought they were going to be pumping out 12 million barrels a day at $12 dollars a barrel of Iraqi oil through a pipeline to Haifa. Iraqi oil has trickled to nothing and the US is left to import oil into Iraq in their failed and costly occupation.
Moreover, oil prices have soared to over $65 a barrel creating a profit windfall for oil producing states and causing the US financial and economic positions to rapidly deteriorate as the price of imported oil and domestic energy have skyrocketed amid massive fuel and food inflation and massive unemployment in the transport sector.
Now the same Jewish morons at AIPAC, JINSA, AEI, PNAC, the Wall Street Journal and Weekly Standard who planned the Iraq attack are planning a new attack on Iran.
The economic consequences of an attack on Iran will be similar to what happened in 1973, but the US will not survive this time around.
The US barely survived the 1973 oil shock with skyrocketing VIETNAM (and Korean War and Cold War) deficits, oil and energy price inflation, a stagnant US economy (as exports to Europe dwindled) with high unemployment (the mass exodus of manufacturing jobs to Japan had begun), a plunging dollar (as US gold was being depleted to back up the dollar), and ISRAEL destabilizing the Middle East (to advance US imperials goals) were all major factors in 1973.
The year 1973 was the beginning of the end of the US as an economic power and we are now at the tailend of a collapsed economy.
In 2004-2006 the same factors (as in 1973) are in full force again and the US in its worst economic position since 1973 with soaring budget and trade deficits from TWO failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; a worthless dollar backed by US printing presses churning out worthless treasury bills; no job growth (job exodus to China and India) since the dot.com bubble implosion; higher oil and energy prices that have caused consumption to plunge; a collapsed economy (supported by debt, mortgage and derivative bubbles) that has not recovered even with trillions in tax cuts, hundreds of billions in government war-related deficit spending and the lowest interest rates in decades. Israel is once again the main culprit destabilizing the Middle East.
The outcome this time around will a lot different that 1973, for one thing the US can no longer afford the welfare payments keeping Israel from extinction.
Greenscam's monetary and fiscal (debt) policies have all failed to refloat the collapsed post-dotcom-bubble-implosion American economy. That is the backdrop for the new war in the Middle East.
The US economy is now being propped up by housing, mortgage, credit (debt) and derivative asset bubbles that are about to implode as Greenscam MUST now raise interest rates to double digits to keep foreign central banks from abandoning the dollar and switching to the euro.
Americans can no longer absorb anymore consumer, corporate or government debt.
To make matters worse, unlike 1973 when the US defaulted on its debt by moving off the gold standard, there is a reserve currency, the EURO, that will quickly replace the dollar should an attack on Iran trigger another oil crisis and a wider war.
This is the opening France, Germany and Russia are waiting for as they will step in to fill the void of a US economy in tatters and the US empire of military bases imploding.
The limitations of the US military are evident in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The US cannot withstand another oil shock and this is precisely the lesson Iran is going to teach the US and Israel, if it is attacked. Iran is going to induce an oil shock cutting off oil supplies.
The US can hardly withstand current crude prices in the $64 range. All the major oil producers are enjoying their profit windfall from the run up in oil prices, a major reason why the neocon-Jews and their ill-fated Iraq war has been economically self-defeating. GM, Ford and the entire US transportation industry are on the brink of bankruptcy just from the modest increase in gasoline prices.
Meanwhile, the US economic and financial positions have deteriorated rapidly and the Iraq has pushed the US into an oil-shock recession
Israel is thinking that in the event of another oil shock that the US is going to use its stored petroleum reserves to keep the Israel alive.
They might want to rethink that one. US reserves wouldn't even cover domestic consumption. This is where you will see really America put its own economic interest ahead of Israel.
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