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BBC feels Gaza Appeal Pressure (Update: BBC Glasgow offices occupied; 57 MPs to sign motion)
By: Channel 4/Stop the War Coalition/BBC on: 26.01.2009 [03:17 ] (1632 reads)
Pic: Occupation of BBC offices in Glasgow
Update: 57 (and rising) MPs ready to supporrt motion urgin BBC to screen the appeal
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BBC firm on Gaza appeal boycott
Last Modified: 24 Jan 2009
By: Carl Dinnen
link to video
The BBC's refusal to broadcast an appeal by charities for aid in Gaza is attacked by the government, opposition and protesters.
But the corporation's chairman has warned against undue political interference.
This attempt to protect the impartiality of the BBC is in danger of achieving the opposite.
All the other terrestrial broadcasters - Channel 4, ITV and Five have decided they will break with the BBC and broadcast the Disasters Emergency Committee appeal on Monday night.
Tonight the BBC is isolated but it insists it will not change its mind, although it is now facing increasing pressure to run an emergency appeal for the victims of the bombings in Gaza.
The Disasters Emergency Committee is a group of 13 aid agencies that work together during humanitarian crises.
Hundreds of people angry over the BBC's decision staged a protest through central London earlier today.
The Channel 4 statement on the Gaza appeal.
"Channel 4 will broadcast the DEC appeal for humanitarian aid for civillians caught up in the Gaza conflict. We accept the DEC's guidance on the urgent need for humanitarian aid and believe this need should take precedence over any considerations as to the causes of the suffering that necessitates it.
"We believe Channel 4's news coverage of the conflict in Gaza has at all times been appropriately impartial and we do not believe our impartiality will be compromised in the eyes of our audience by broadcasting this appeal. We have informed other broadcasters of our decision."
Douglas Alexander
The International Development Secretary Douglas Alexander spoke to Krishnan Guru-Murthy.
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Caroline Thomson
Krishnan Guru-Murthy spoke to the BBC's chief operating officer Caroline Thomson.
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BBC Headquarters Occupied in Scotland
Written by Stop the War Admin
Sunday, 25 January 2009
Over 100 supporters of Scottish Stop the War Coalition and Palestinian groups occupied the BBC headquarters in Glasgow today demanding that the BBC reverse its decision not to broadcast an emergency aid appeal for Gaza.
The occupation lasted for five hours and gained significant media coverage. No one was arrested.
The occupation adds to the pressure the BBC is now receiving from all sides that the aid appeal be shown immediately. The BBC admits that over 11,000 people have complained already. See below for how you can send your complaint.
http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=994&Itemid=1
MPs back motion on BBC Gaza row
The appeal is to raise money for emergency supplies in Gaza
More than 50 MPs say they will back a parliamentary motion urging the BBC to screen a charity appeal for Gaza.
The BBC says broadcasting the Disasters Emergency Committee film would put its reputation for impartiality at risk.
Criticism over the corporation's decision has come from archbishops, government ministers, charity leaders and 11,000 viewers.
Broadcasters ITV, Channels 4 and Five are to show the appeal later. Sky is yet to make a decision.
The DEC, which represents more than a dozen aid agencies, is asking for money to buy food, medicine and blankets following the Israeli assault on Gaza.
Labour MP Richard Burden is putting forward the early day motion.
He said: "Last time I looked... it was 57 MPs from different parties, Labour, Conservative, Liberal Democrats and others.
"I think there's great concern about what the BBC has done here."
Culture Secretary Andy Burnham has said the BBC is right to make its own judgement over the appeal.
BBC director general Mark Thompson said the danger for the BBC "is that this could be interpreted as taking a political stance on an ongoing story".
A string of politicians, including International Secretary Douglas Alexander, Communities Secretary Hazel Blears and opposition spokesmen, have urged the corporation to reconsider its position.
Their comments drew criticism from BBC Trust chairman Michael Lyons who said some were "coming close to constituting undue interference in the editorial independence of the BBC".
The corporation's former director general, Greg Dyke, said it was in a "no win" situation.
Disasters Emergency Committee Gaza humanitarian appeal:
Launched by UK charities on 22 January to raise money for Gaza aid relief and reconstruction
Participants: Action Aid, British Red Cross, Cafod, Care International, Christian Aid, Concern Worldwide, Help the Aged, Islamic Relief, Merlin, Oxfam, Save the Children, Tearfund, World Vision
Information on 0370 60 60 900 or at DEC website
Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg has accused the BBC of getting its priorities "upside down".
The Church of England also waded into the row, with the Archbishop of York appealing for the BBC to consider humanity, not impartiality, and show the film.
In a direct appeal to the BBC, Dr John Sentamu said: "Come on Auntie Beeb. Wake up and get on with it."
The Charity Commission, which regulates UK charities, echoed calls for the BBC to reconsider, saying the work of the agencies would be hampered without "maximum public support".
However, Conservative MP Mark Field believes the row has boosted the profile of the appeal.
"The high profile controversy has given this appeal more publicity than it could possibly have imagined getting," he said.
"In many ways, it has achieved a lot of its aims that way without necessarily having to have a fully-fledged BBC coverage
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7850407.stm
by pilot-x on 26.01.2009 [02:19 ]
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lists 1423 titles related to this. The word is getting out on the BBC refusal...
Deja vu anyone? I found something interesting in the archives from 1 year ago;
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npvh7IC7pUg
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [08:19 ]
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Those are the really oppressed people murdered by the Albanian Muslim bandits for being Serbs and Orthodox Christians. Free Kosovo from the Albanian mobsters !
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by Sandy on 26.01.2009 [11:41 ]
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h ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC
Have a lok at teh BBC coat of arms-recognise the little stars?
Check out Carol Thompson too-removed from wiki-dad was a Mendelson camp, et al.
Note the change of the BBC guardianship from teh Board to the Trustees-mainly people of finance rather than previously people of education......
Be interesting to see how many board members are stooges of rothchild adn his Zionist ideology.
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by Sandy on 26.01.2009 [11:49 ]
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the head of the BBC World is a JOhn Smith. Ahah. mi6.
The just broadcast BBC workd radio article about teh Bush years was the most appalling pice of propganda lies I have ever heard.Want to barf-have a listen!
It certainly shows just what a stooge leadership it has when it makes good journalist run such rubbish, how shameful for Britain.
the biggest Media muff was when Benazir Bhutto was interviewed by Sir David Frost adn she said Bin Ladin was dead. Frost , true stooge that he is, didnt pause but went straight onto the next topic-missing the Journalist scoop of the millenium! another stooge for the World order of Lies and I used to enjoy watching him, now what a nasty piece he really is. She was then killed remember......no more interviews.
The BBC censored that part of the interview off their site. Any doubt sabout the BBC trying to rewrite history? What a nasty web they weave trying to decieve.
All sinec the new "trust" and their massive sackings , probably of the ones with integrity.
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by Sandy on 26.01.2009 [12:24 ]
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And about more BBC talking suits for Israel:
"....fascinating, then, to learn that its director general, Mark Thompson, has recently returned from Jerusalem, where he held a face-to-face meeting with the hardine Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
Although the diplomatic visit was not publicised on these shores, it has been seized upon in Israel as evidence that Thompson, who took office in 2004, intends to build bridges with the country's political class.
Sources at the Beeb also suspect that it heralds a "softening" to the corporation's unofficial editorial line on the Middle East.
"This was the first visit of its kind by any serving director general, so it's clearly a significant development," I'm told.
"Not many people know this, but Mark is actually a deeply religious man. He's a Catholic, but his wife is Jewish, and he has a far greater regard for the Israeli cause than some of his predecessors."..."
ht tp://respectuk.blogspot.com/.
Bend over BBC suits
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by Richard on 26.01.2009 [14:11 ]
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Perhaps there will be another "genocide" from which the population will need to be rescued.
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by Blitzkrieg- on 26.01.2009 [16:46 ]
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The jewish communists have murdered countless millions of Russian and East European Christians. Jews have spread communism far and wide to all corners of the earth.
The Jewish Communist party murdered untold millions when they created their vile police states all over eastern europe.
In addition, the Jewish talmudic mentality considers non-jews to be inferior animal like species who are meant to serve their Jewish overlords. It's funny how Jews view non-Jews, even though the western taxpayer is genorously funding the high standard of living that the Jewish squatter state's citizens enjoy (i.e. in Israel).
After all, Israel and it's people are the world's largest recipients of welfare payments. And they still consider the providers of their welfare to be inferior goyim, as per the teachings of their wonderful Talmud.
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by Blitzkrieg- on 26.01.2009 [16:51 ]
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The Jews and their liberal/communist subversion of traditional American society have brought about the wholesale murder of millions of aborted babies and destroyed the traditional American nuclear family, thanks to the vile and despicable values they spread via the Jewish controlled pop culture.
The Jewish squatters have robbed America and the Western world from trillions upon trillions of wealth via the financial system they have engineered to steal from the goyim with the help of some of their goyim allies.
Madoff, Greenspan, Bernanke, are just the tip of the Talmudic iceberg that has destroyed the American nation's society and economy.
The Jewish squatters have benefitted from billions in direct and indirect aid from the USA, while American intelligence has acknoledged that Israel has spied on the USA more than any of it's allies, in addition to several known betrayals (google: USS liberty, the Lavon Affair, Jonathan Pollard, 9-11 and Mossad,....).
It is funny that while the Jews view non-jews as animals, they continue to live off of the non-jews' genorisity, while they destroy the society of the non-jews and bankrupt their economy, like the parasites they are.
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by Blitzkrieg- on 26.01.2009 [16:53 ]
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That the Israeli nation is the world's largest recipient of welfare payments direct from the Western Taxpayer!
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by capncrunch1stOhm on 26.01.2009 [17:10 ]
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The Serbs have a right to be treated equally starting with WAR CRIMES TRIALS for Israel.
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [18:18 ]
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in a traditonal Palestinian way. Bomb the bloody bastards ! Launch missiles at them ! Send a couple of the suicide bombers and leave nothing of them!
Also, how about stopping to pay the BBC tax ?
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [18:23 ]
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The BBC’s Mike Fudge said “Some viewers think that when there is a major catastrophe, the BBC should help the Aid Agencies in their work to stop civilians suffering and dying – what we might call ‘being humane’.”
“But other viewers disagree, and think that babies with limbs torn off should go through lots and lots of pain, a nasty infection, and death – what we might call ‘being inhumane’ or ‘cruel’. It is not the BBC’s place to judge which of these positions is ‘right’ or ‘wrong’.”
He explained: “It is often difficult for news networks to strike a balance between humanity and cruelty. By telling the Aid Agencies to get lost, we ensure that everyone thinks we’re being fair.”
They seem to have gone completely mad. Since when has a broadcaster sought to encourage views of cruelty, on the pretext of "impartiality". I wonder if it is possible to gain a parallel with the BBC's current behaviour and German broadcasters in the 1930s?
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [18:23 ]
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SkyTV’s Richard Head said:
“We agree with the BBC. Some think that Oxfam, the Red Cross and Save the Children are interested in helping people not-die. Others see them as anti-Semitic neo-Nazi front-groups. We are in no position to say who is right, one way or the other.”
He added: “If we openly advocate humanity in this situation, those of our viewers who support cruelty may be very upset. Will Oxfam provide counselling for their hurt feelings? Best to stay well out of it, I reckon.”
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [18:25 ]
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EU envoy lays Gaza blame on Hamas
A senior European Union official touring war-torn Gaza has blamed the ruling militant movement Hamas for the humanitarian crisis there.
Humanitarian aid chief Louis Michel called the destruction left by Israel's offensive "abominable", but said Hamas bore "overwhelming responsibility".
He said there would be no dialogue with with the "terrorist" movement until it gave up violence and recognised Israel.
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [18:33 ]
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Bomb the bloody vermin till they submit ! Take hostages !
Be the brave soldiers of Allah ! It's time to take over England and to circumsize that Zio reptile Charles !
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [18:47 ]
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no - you've got it the wrong way round. The BBC and Sky appear the be saying its OK to turn a blind eye to suffering of Gazans. I don't remember them even daring to say such a thing about people of Burma, Darfur, New Orleans, or anywhere else that involves the suffering of thousands.
Imagine the BBC saying that about New Yorkers after 9/11!!!
I thank you for your last post on the Viva Palestina thread. It was balanced, well argued, and made good sense - whether one agrees with it or not.
Why not argue in favour of the BBC/Sky decision on such cerebral lines?
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [19:05 ]
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picking on the human silliness, from all the sides.
Do you think I ever read the boring, tedious, "ditto-type" postings of MmaRGg ?
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [19:42 ]
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I told you, Europe is getting tired of Arabs. You understand, each and every country has its problems with separatists, ethnic and social discontent. For them, it is suicidal to support to anyone using terror. If terror ever wins, then they'll get emboldened oppositionary elements within their own countries. The cases like Kosovo are possible only in case of the geopolitical interests, or the interests of the mighty international drug mafia. Other then that, they'll do their best to show that terror does not work.
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by Richard on 26.01.2009 [19:44 ]
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Enough said.
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by verve on 26.01.2009 [19:56 ]
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you fear Arabs like the white citizens of Skankville,PA. fear blacks. What do you fear the most, they'll steal your women. The crap you watch about Arabs in Europe is ziopropaghanda designed for people like yourself.
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [21:21 ]
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Nay ! I said Europe is TIRED of Arabs.
You wanna fight for the teeritory using terror ? Fight, it is your right.
But why do you solicit our support in that fight ? You fight, and get your women and children hurt as a result ? It is your fault, nobody would have a real compassion to tragedy. Moreover, your cries will eventually start to annoy people.
Grow up, verve. The Palestinian often resemble a teenager who kills his parents, and then pleads with the court for mercy because he is an orphan.
Another thing is applicable, the definition of stupidity by Albert Einstein: doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results. If you wanna fight, it is your right, it is fine with me, just start doing something different and, hopefully, something smarter. It is truly insulting when you expect people to degrade themselves to supporting of the stupidity of what you are doing.
I've been laughing and will continue to laugh at it.
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [21:23 ]
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Nay ! I said Europe is TIRED of Arabs.
You wanna fight for the territory using terror ? Fight, it is your right.
But why do you solicit our support in that fight ? You fight, and get your women and children hurt as a result ? It is your fault, nobody would have a real compassion to your tragedy. Moreover, your cries will eventually start to annoy people.
Grow up, verve. The Palestinians often resemble a teenager who kills his parents, and then pleads with the court for mercy because he is an orphan.
Another thing is applicable, the definition of stupidity by Albert Einstein: doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results. If you wanna fight, it is your right, it is fine with me, just start doing something different and, hopefully, something smarter. It is truly insulting when you expect people to degrade themselves to supporting the stupidity of what you are doing.
I've been laughing and will continue to laugh at it.
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [21:25 ]
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Nay ! I said Europe is TIRED of Arabs.
You wanna fight for the territory using terror ? Fight, it is your right.
But why do you solicit our support in that fight ? You fight, and get your women and children hurt as a result ? It is your fault, nobody would have a real compassion to your tragedy. Moreover, your cries will eventually start to annoy people.
Grow up, verve. The Palestinians often resemble a teenager who kills his parents, and then pleads with the court for mercy because he is an orphan.
Another thing is applicable, the definition of stupidity by Albert Einstein: doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results. If you wanna fight, it is your right, it is fine with me, just start doing something different and, hopefully, something smarter. It is truly insulting when you expect people to degrade themselves to supporting the stupidity of what you are doing.
I've been laughing and will continue to laugh at it.
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [21:34 ]
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or under the strict control of... something not very nice.
I'm a Brit, who grew up with a BBC of high moral standards. The BBC in te 60s and 70s always spoke out against racism, and the comedy - which was excellent - always placed the immigrant as a person of higher moral standing than the bigot who called them every name under the son. You laughed at the bigot, but not for what he stood for.
Nowadays, you look at BBC soaps and comedy, and very often it is the black person who is shown as of lower morals, or as a slightly ridiculous figure to poke fun at, or a loser. Asians and arabs rarely feature at all. It is all very different. THe contrast is quite marked, and actually quite disturbing.
AND thinking about it, the BBC NOT making an appeal for the people of Gaza when it has for all those other peoples - coupled with allowing comments like that of Mike Fudge (see my earlier post) could be translated as a racist act in itself... a first step towards giving a green light to ethnic cleansing. I wonder what Obama thinks about it all... I wonder what Trevor Philips, the government's racial equality guru, thinks about it.
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [21:47 ]
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does not include shooting the rockets at the population centers with the expectations of impunity. It also does not include sending the suicide bombers with the expectations of impunity.
The proper notion for those actions is terror. Thus, it is dealt with accordingly.
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by pilot-x on 26.01.2009 [21:54 ]
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Good to see you. Cigarette? "Yes Major, thank you."
Coctail? "Yes Major, thank you, a Molotov please."
Ahh good choice. Petol or diesel? "Petrol please. Thanks Major."
My pleasure Bond. Are you familiar with the target? "Yea Major, I have surveilled it on an earlier mission."
Haha Bond too funny I seem to recall she was blond, yes? "Yes Major."
Very well carry on then, oh, your envelope sir.. "Ahhh your too kind Major, Adieu."
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [22:01 ]
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but people have a right to self-defence.
I'm sure the people have Palestine have tried all other means over the 60 years since settlers started forceably taking their land. When nothing else works, and the other side won't listen to any kind of reason, what is left...
The "suicide bomber" type behaviour is a characteristic of peoples driven to absolute desperation going back thousands of years. I can therefore understand it, and we all should say "there but more the grace of *** (god/luck/chance/synchronicity/whatever) go I. Because we are all part of the human race, and when any other human suffers at the hand of another the human race as a whole is dimished.
As I'm sure you are aware, Jesus said that... although he put it a slightly different way.
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [22:17 ]
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Israelis are doing self-defence. You are shooting at them, they are shooting at you. It is a Wild West showdown. There is no sheriff around, or he is standing on a side, not getting involved.
Somebody kicked you out, you don't want to go to the court, or there is no court, then get a gun and try to outshoot the other side. Just don't cry once you get hurt.
>The "suicide bomber" type behaviour is a characteristic of peoples driven to absolute desperation going back thousands of years.
Oh, that's a bullshit. We know well how people are pressed and brainwashed into becoming suicide bombers. Those who organize it do not blow themselves up, they usually have quite opulent existence. Look at the Arafat's family, for example.
What thousands of years ? Even then you were oppressed by the Zionists ? How come that history is quiet about that ? We know only about the Jewish Wars against Rome and against the Selevkids. Those wars were as brainless as those conducted now by Palestinians.
A bunch of the few poorly trained and armed coo-coos took on the great power of Rome, and expected they will win, because god told them so. It seems that irrationality is an ancient traditional attribute of the Levantine mind.
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by Richard on 26.01.2009 [22:26 ]
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Poor little innocent Israel being attacked by the rabid, irrational Arabs.
Get outta here with that bleeding-heart crap.
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [22:27 ]
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I said "suicide bomber type behaviour"... where they risk untold damage to themselves just to kill one of the marauding invaders. That was most recently documented about the people of Anglesey in North Wales who resisted the invading Romans, and deductions made from the human remains found.
It was true, of course, more recently, in Japan, with the kamikaze pilots - Japanese people were desperate, with all that carpet bombing. There is a story going round that thousands of Japanese men were lining up to die gloriously, and the US were actually starting to lose - and they finished it quick by fighting really really dirty. I'd like to know your opinion on that one, although the Japanese had been invaders themselves so the atom bomb was justifiable (to the UN, at least).
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [22:36 ]
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stopwar.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=998&Itemid=1
"What is the matter with you people? Are you blind or just spineless?"
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [22:40 ]
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are usually people from poor families who do it under the family pressure to save the family honor. For example, a teenage girl fooled around, got pregnant, now it's the way for her to save the family honor. There are also psychically unstable people for whom it is a glorious way to committ suicide. Sane, psychically healthy people do not committ suicide even if they hate the invaders. Read the memoirs of the ex-kamikaze who survived because their turn never came: they all claim they did not want to die, they were pressed into it and they were greatly relieved when the war ended, even in the defeat.
Yet we have plentiful of the "freedomfighers" in America, who get fired from their jobs, them come to the workplace, shoot the boss and the former co-workers, then committ suicide. Oh, I feel so much for those freedomfighters...
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [22:41 ]
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www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jan/26/bbc-staff-protest-over-gaza-aid-appeal
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [22:42 ]
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Who cares what an actor does ? Britney Spears yet again on drugs because of all those cruel people around. Who cares ?
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [22:45 ]
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"...
The BBC confirmed it had received 15,500 complaints over its decision, while its own staff and broadcasting unions joined in the criticism.
The two-minute appeal, which featured a professional voiceover on top of images of the recent conflict in Gaza, aired first on ITV1 at 6.25pm, just before the channel's main evening news. It was due to be followed by Channel Five at 7.25pm and Channel 4 at 7.50pm.
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www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jan/26/channels-air-gaza-aid-appeal-despite-bbc-refusal
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [22:46 ]
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Who cares ? If they want to get their salaries, they would be doing what the BBC bosses tell them to do. If they do not do it, the'll be fired, and the BBC will hire their replacements. Who cares ?
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [22:47 ]
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"There have been some who've defended the non-airing of the appeal but, looking at the names of those who've done so has brought to mind Doc Daneeka in Heller's "Catch-22".
Just as you can't have crazy people deciding if you're crazy or not, you can't have biased people deciding what's biased or not."
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [22:48 ]
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Who cares ?
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [22:51 ]
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While the Romans are killing, PFJ debates the resolution condemning it.
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by Richard on 26.01.2009 [22:57 ]
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Hamas rockets are falling on your heads?
Good.
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by Richard on 26.01.2009 [23:00 ]
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Just breaks my heart, ya know?
(sniff)
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [23:01 ]
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I'll find you a quote - BBC as a last resort, if I have to!
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [23:03 ]
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"Anglesey was one of the last places to be invaded by the Romans during the invasion of Britain in the first century AD. This is was a bloody event with the Celts and their Druidic priests recorded as presenting a terrifying spectacle to the battle hardened Roman troops."
www.go4anglesey.co.uk/anglesey2.htm
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [23:12 ]
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"...
Women were seen running through the ranks in wild disorder, their apparel funereal, their hair loose to the wind, in their hands flaming torches, and their whole appearance resembling the frantic rage of the Furies. The druids were ranged in order, with hands uplifted, invoking the gods, and pouring forth horrible imprecations.
The novelty of the fight struck the Romans with awe and terror. They stood in stupid amazement, as if their limbs were benumbed, riveted to one spot, a mark for the enemy.
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Much more about this below...
www.channel4.com/history/microsites/T/timeteam/2007_ang_t.html
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [23:18 ]
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Precisely ! Who cares ? They shoot at you, you shoot at them, with all that you have. Just don't listen to those who cry about "disproportionate use of force", "killing of the civilians"...
Who cares ?
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [23:21 ]
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the people of Anglesey had been blockaded and starved for months, and they finally burned themselves to death rather than allowing the Romans to get anywhere near them... and took out quite a few Roman soldiers as they went. This is not standard Druidic ritual, I'm pretty sure of that.
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by Ghengis on 26.01.2009 [23:22 ]
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I'm arguing that at this day and age the sane people don't do it just because they are outraged to see the invaders. Arabs do it to each other in Iraq. Why ? Is it because the Sunnis are outraged to see the Shia invaders on the territories that always belonged to Shias ?
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [23:23 ]
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is very clever. MP (never noticed that before!) is a joke enjoyed by the middle classes... especially middle class boys who aren't brave enough to stand up to their oppressors. Others don't get it, because it is heavily contextualised. Totally out of place here...
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by stоpwar on 26.01.2009 [23:27 ]
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You obviously didn't read my last post:
"... the people of Anglesey had been blockaded and starved for months..."
It wasn't just the sight of the enemy that triggered such primeval behaviour but the continual barrage they had been getting before invasion.
They gave the Romans quite a fright, however...
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by pilot-x on 26.01.2009 [23:30 ]
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Time to rename it
"OOPS WE FORGOT DAY?"
TEN MINUTES OF SILENCE for the dogmati dodos.
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